Lincoln intended to be pretty lenient

But his death enabled the righteous to do whatever they wanted

The problem with such a figure like that is the entire thing rests on the shoulder of the person who basically created it. Once they’re gone it falls apart

His kind of caesarean in a way

Kentucky remained neutral only because we thought we could keep our slaves if we did so. But with that said, Jefferson Davis was from Kentucky and a large portion of the Confederate Generals as well. Not to mention that Kentucky seceded in 1864 but Lincoln moved in forces to keep them from taking complete control of Kentucky.

The Confederate capitol of Kentucky was Bowling Green

Cool. Yeah Lincoln did something similar with Maryland I believe

Smart move tactically I suppose

@Kingfish Lincoln also originally planned on sending the slaves back to Africa but his death prevented that

Yeah I think the best case scenario would have been Lincoln living to see through whatever he had planned

Lincoln has been often described as a tyrant for a reason, but I suppose that’s mainly due to his Caesarian style

He was in complete control of the nation and had the power necessary to positively bypass congress

I think like Caesar, tyrant is certainly a title you can accuse him of

But how accurate it is will change from who you ask

Many will argue however that his strong measures were needed to keep together the nation

But that’s neither here nor there

I personally subscribe to that belief.

For better or worse

As do I.

He did what he felt necessary

I think that America is more than a government though

It was a tragedy for everyone

And that such a view may be a bit mistaken

Both sides were Americans

With the Confederate side being more along the lines of what the Founding Fathers intended regarding small government and states rights

I actually would agree. I believe the confederates absolutely had a more literalist view of what the founders intended

The Founders were not unified in their views, to be fair.

@The Eternal Anglo We arent a democracy but a constitutional republic 😉

I think that they had a culture deeply rooted in a system that was beginning to trail behind and the rift created irreconcilable differences

Never forget that universal suffrage wasn’t a thing. We did republicanism *right*

Jackson did one thing wrong

It was a mutual fight to determine just what this nation was

And one side won

@Kingfish That breaks my heart actually but it’s true

The civil war was awful

I’m sympathetic to the idealism of it

I really am

But as a Pennsylvanian with family who fought for the union, I firmly stand on my side of the line haha

I don’t have any ancestry or ethnic ties to the southern society and being from an Italian Catholic background I understandably can’t really say I’d side with the south. But like I said I understand the idealism and respect the will of those who fought for what they believed to be right

For better or worse