It's like a fever dream

Enoch and Jasher were ALWAYS canon before nicea

it explains about Nephilim and fallen angels

and giants

if you ever open a tanakh, it will directly use the word nephilim

kjv does not

Genesis 6:4

**Genesis 6:4 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<4> There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. ```

Genesis 6:4 CJB

**Genesis 6:4 - Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)**

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<4> The N'filim were on the earth in those days, and also afterwards, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; these were the ancient heroes, men of renown. ```

heores is the wrong word, CJB got that one wrong

https://biblehub.com/text/genesis/6-4.htm here's the hebrew

3 occurances

Sure must be a nuisance to quote scripture, only for you to say it’s wrong all the time.

Isaiah 40:8

**Isaiah 40:8 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<8> The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever. ```

i say 1 verse is added and you assume im throwing the entire bible away

3 John 1:14

**3 John 14 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<14> But I trust I shall shortly see thee, and we shall speak face to face. Peace be to thee. Our friends salute thee. Greet the friends by name. ```

arguing with bibleman.. is like pissing in the ocean.. " He knows it all" soooo annoying Derek

Would any of you like to convert to Ravenism?

Like screaming for help in the forest.. and no one is there to hear you

not really A13X

Yes you would

ummm no.. dont go there

If you enjoy having 10 fingers then you definitely would...

Awkward conversation going on here

lol

Would you like to join Brian?

I follow the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and Jesus our Messiah.

slavery is cool

@A Search for Roche's Rifle What the heck is ravenism?

Zaggy you're in the minority there, I don't find actual slavery "cool".

Mark 6:30-56; 2 Samuel 16; Daniel 10

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<42> And all ate and were filled; <43> and they took up twelve baskets full of broken pieces and of the fish. <44> Those who had eaten the loaves numbered five thousand men. <45> Immediately he made his disciples get into the boat and go on ahead to the other side, to Bethsaida, while he dismissed the crowd. <46> After saying farewell to them, he went up on the mountain to pray. <47> When evening came, the boat was out on the sea, and he was alone on the land. <48> When he saw that they were straining at the oars against an adverse wind, he came towards them early in the morning, walking on the sea. He intended to pass them by. <49> But when they saw him walking on the sea, they thought it was a ghost and cried out; <50> for they all saw him and were terrified. But immediately he spoke to them and said, "Take heart, it is I; do not be afraid." <51> Then he got into the boat with them and the wind ceased. And they were utterly astounded, <52> for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened. <53> When they had crossed over, they came to land at Gennesaret and moored the boat. <54> When they got out of the boat, people at once recognized him, <55> and rushed about that whole region and began to bring the sick on mats to wherever they heard he was. <56> And wherever he went, into villages or cities or farms, they laid the sick in the marketplaces, and begged him that they might touch even the fringe of his cloak; and all who touched it were healed. ```

James 3: 9-10 With the tongue we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God’s likeness. 10 Out of the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, this should not be!

@Bibleman You make some good points on Nephilim however it ia the Hebrew word and thus more accurate than using the English word for it which is always questionable as to the true meaning of the Hebrew.

There are many reasons people do not believe in Enoch and Jasher. But most believe in neither at least in America and Europe. Without them it is difficult to understand what this passage means.
Genesis 6:4 NIV

**Genesis 6:4 - New International Version (NIV)**

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<4> The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown. ```

Corrupt council of men removes those books and oppresses real Christians, they must be legit, right?

@Bibleman Agreed @Derek Nelson Fantastic FE verse brother