Message from @Abe Lover
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I forgot
Just my two cents friends
That's one case, a lot of people have overcome these temptations without God.
So for me it was God and all the glory for me not doing it anymore belongs to God
Spirituality without a God is also an alternative which has worked very well for bhuddists
it is disheartening to see the same demons make the same arguments through every person I tell this to. Resist. Temptation. And. You. Will. See.
Many Christians have similar stories to @Brian (Fourth Amendment)
Yes, I'm not saying it doesn't work for you, it works differently for everyone.
But to say that God is necessary is a huge claim .
True
Especially with no evidence.
He never said he did
He said it helped him
Neither of you have tried, I can see it clearly. You are just like we were before the Spirit
I'm talking about Dew
@Abe Lover Does this change the truth of what I am saying? If anything it would seem to prove my point.
Your truth is a subjective truth.
you keep saying no evidence, but have you seen the complexity of nature? the whole "no God" claim insinuates that a tornado moving through a junkyard would make a Boeing
words words words
People turn to athiesm because God lets them down, and they find peace alternatively
people turn to atheism purely for selfish reasons
I am intriguied with what your sin was
Prove that.
excuse me?
Thank you Abe. But it's not me you're agreeing with it is God. I am just a man, all the glory is his
But if you want it to be secret than so be it
people turn to atheism because they demand tests, have little faith, and refuse to give up their sins, and so they never knew God, and lukewarm churches never tell them the truth
I am not questioning the existence of God, if you had read something, you'd know that, I'm questioning the necessity of God in order to deliver oneself from general temptations.
And the complexity of nature is a "goddidit" argument.
I follow the thought process of Kierkegaard, more than apologists.
Try it. I can make no argument to convince you of something that the world is DESIGNED to hide from you until you try it
Oh lord.
I was addicted to pornography and masturbation for around 35 years. I tried many times to stop, sometimes I would make it a few days sometimes a month or two but I would always fail. The minute I gave it to God and begged him to strengthen me, I was 100% fixed and in almost 2 years have not had a problem with either again.
Too me that is God
because through human strength alone you WILL fail. the will of a man is not strong enough to overcome sin without the Spirit of God guiding and aiding them. we are to make our weakness an opportunity for God to show his strength, through him we prevail.
God demands faith. you have little, and so you’ll never see God
And I thank God for it Epic Abe
Design does not necessitate a creator, necessity necessitates a creator, if you say complexity because God did it, then according to Ockham's Razor it is equally valid to say spaghetti monster.
All the glory is his.