Message from @Bibleman

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2019-07-05 07:09:44 UTC  

yes, when the verse is obvious and in context as i provided

2019-07-05 07:10:14 UTC  

Genesis 32:24-30

2019-07-05 07:10:14 UTC  

**Genesis 32:24-30 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<24> And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. <25> And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him. <26> And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. <27> And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. <28> And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. <29> And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. <30> And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. ```

2019-07-05 07:10:23 UTC  

theres your context Bork

2019-07-05 07:10:54 UTC  

...

2019-07-05 07:11:00 UTC  

we know he didn't wrestle God because

2019-07-05 07:11:03 UTC  

Numbers 23:19

2019-07-05 07:11:04 UTC  

**Numbers 23:19 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<19> God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? ```

2019-07-05 07:11:50 UTC  

I really didn’t need that

2019-07-05 07:12:00 UTC  

you just wanted to mess with me?

2019-07-05 07:12:05 UTC  

No

2019-07-05 07:12:18 UTC  

then yes, you DID need that

2019-07-05 07:12:25 UTC  

because you used a false assertion

2019-07-05 07:15:39 UTC  

"false assertion"

2019-07-05 07:16:02 UTC  

Lol, coming from the dude who hasn't been able to justify any of his positions because "philosophy is false"

2019-07-05 07:17:00 UTC  

i posted in context why and you still won't acknowledge it, stop instigating and ignoring proof

2019-07-05 07:17:43 UTC  

Only the Bibilical context, as in preceding verses, experts tend to disagree, though this may be pulling the appeal to authority, it's better left that way because I'm a layman

2019-07-05 07:17:58 UTC  

And the Bible saying it's false doesn't make it so...

2019-07-05 07:18:04 UTC  

😹

2019-07-05 07:18:10 UTC  

*Laughs in Jewish*

2019-07-05 07:19:02 UTC  

you asked for biblical proof and now you flat out deny the proof after all that time?

2019-07-05 07:19:05 UTC  

!mute @Friedrich i've had enough of your instigating

2019-07-05 07:19:06 UTC  

2019-07-05 07:21:47 UTC  

Who tf in their right mind gave this guy mod??

2019-07-05 07:22:20 UTC  

@Wendigo bibleman and dew surpassed me

2019-07-05 07:22:27 UTC  

Even though I was here longer than them

2019-07-05 07:22:30 UTC  

So I have no idea

2019-07-05 07:23:00 UTC  

bork, stop concern trolling

2019-07-05 07:23:19 UTC  

Or what?

2019-07-05 07:23:40 UTC  

You'll be sent to the ice box

2019-07-05 07:23:49 UTC  

And be where the other guy went

2019-07-05 07:23:49 UTC  

😂

2019-07-05 07:23:57 UTC  

I mean you asked

2019-07-05 07:23:58 UTC  

I’ve been in his server

2019-07-05 07:24:04 UTC  

or what? seriously? you basically admitted to it

2019-07-05 07:24:06 UTC  

I’m used to it

2019-07-05 07:24:12 UTC  

So I gave the the answer

2019-07-05 07:25:13 UTC  

Rhetorical question

2019-07-05 07:25:39 UTC  

I mean this is the Internet

2019-07-05 07:25:49 UTC  

Idk how I was supposed to know but that's cool

2019-07-05 07:26:26 UTC  

I was asking him