Message from @Bibleman
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yes, when the verse is obvious and in context as i provided
Genesis 32:24-30
**Genesis 32:24-30 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<24> And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. <25> And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him. <26> And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. <27> And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. <28> And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. <29> And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. <30> And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. ```
theres your context Bork
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we know he didn't wrestle God because
Numbers 23:19
**Numbers 23:19 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<19> God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? ```
I really didn’t need that
you just wanted to mess with me?
No
then yes, you DID need that
because you used a false assertion
"false assertion"
Lol, coming from the dude who hasn't been able to justify any of his positions because "philosophy is false"
i posted in context why and you still won't acknowledge it, stop instigating and ignoring proof
Only the Bibilical context, as in preceding verses, experts tend to disagree, though this may be pulling the appeal to authority, it's better left that way because I'm a layman
And the Bible saying it's false doesn't make it so...
😹
*Laughs in Jewish*
!mute @Friedrich i've had enough of your instigating
Who tf in their right mind gave this guy mod??
Even though I was here longer than them
So I have no idea
bork, stop concern trolling
Or what?
You'll be sent to the ice box
And be where the other guy went
😂
I mean you asked
I’ve been in his server
or what? seriously? you basically admitted to it
I’m used to it
So I gave the the answer
Rhetorical question
I mean this is the Internet
Idk how I was supposed to know but that's cool
I was asking him