sounds like a rare case to me

im more than willing to bet that human traffickers can adopt them from there

i haven't heard any report like that but it can still happen

Most children are less safe in foster care. Many die in foster care. Nothing unusual about it unfortunately it is just almost never reported on.

also, that link that you sent said she was charged with infanticide

oh i've heard of some of the poor conditions there. that's why i mentioned it

Well some were charged and got community service or simply no jail time or anything else. No one got the prison time.

well, says here it wasn't under the right circumstances:
*"The charge can only be applied to a woman — a mother — who “carried out conduct that causes the death of her child (under two) in circumstances that would constitute murder”, and, whose balance of mind is disturbed because she’s either not recovered from the effect of giving birth, or as a result of “a disorder consequent on her giving birth to that child”.

It’s a rare crime and one that carries different meanings and consequences in different jurisdictions. In New South Wales a mother can only be found guilty of infanticide if she has killed her child under 12 months, under similar circumstances as in the Victorian law, only the punishment will be the same as if it was manslaughter. The partial defence of infanticide is also available in Tasmania, but doesn’t feature in the remaining Australian states’ criminal codes."*

there's more to i than that i can quote if you like

Yes so in some cases infanticide is legal. It is often not that hard to claim you were depressed or whatever. If I am depressed and go kill someone that is murder.

not legal. it's still a crime. but she just didn't get as harsh of a punishment

Rarely should depression mean not a crime.

None were sent to prison. Some had the crime on their criminal record and at least one had to do community service.

Five years max for killing a child. That is just wrong.

didn't you say a year before?

This was a law they wanted to pass I think nationwide. It did not get passed. But these other laws make it rather clear that could well where they are going. This one is worst as I see it.

huh

Five years max for murder. Insane.

that's what they tried for?

If you do not want a child give it for adoption. Do not murder the child.

so you're pro life right?

No they do not call it murder.

yeah, its a different case

they classify it as something else.

more of a lesser crime

Yes. I disagree with abortion period. Not after the child is a month along.

even when the fetus is still growing in the mother?

I am OK with morning after pills taken with in two weeks of missing a period.

Yes that child is another human being. Not OK to murder.

ok then

Once conceived it is human, don't want a kid don't spread your legs

If I am holding up a child. That does not give me the right to murder the child. That is reality. The mother is holding up the child and providing food for the child. It is another human being.

that's why they made birth control and condoms 😆

Yes I am OK with using them. Even to abort a baby two weeks after missing the period. No later than that.

Human cells =humam

Well at a month it is clearly another human being.

At 5 Seconds it's human

i don't do the abortion topic very often so im not very strong in this topic. but i do know that *the average person* wouldn't abort their kid at that age. if it was me i would abort it before it has a heartbeat and/or a neuron charge

No abortion is right, not even half a second after the egg is fertilized

Yes I can understand not wanting a child. Doing things to prevent it yet it happens anyway. Thus I am OK with the pills to end it once you know it happened. But that is when it should be done.

Don't be a baby murder apologist, it's wrong