Message from @Wendigo

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2019-07-17 19:13:26 UTC  

sometimes they are put into foster care, if they do find the right home to live in they'll one day find out that they were adopted and then an entire thing will spiral from there

2019-07-17 19:13:50 UTC  

Never prosecuting is the same as legal.

2019-07-17 19:14:42 UTC  

@Wendigo Many are sold into sexual slavery from CPS. They are never to be trusted unfortunately.

2019-07-17 19:15:26 UTC  

sounds like a rare case to me

2019-07-17 19:16:01 UTC  

im more than willing to bet that human traffickers can adopt them from there

2019-07-17 19:16:18 UTC  

i haven't heard any report like that but it can still happen

2019-07-17 19:19:05 UTC  

Most children are less safe in foster care. Many die in foster care. Nothing unusual about it unfortunately it is just almost never reported on.

2019-07-17 19:19:09 UTC  

also, that link that you sent said she was charged with infanticide

2019-07-17 19:19:40 UTC  

oh i've heard of some of the poor conditions there. that's why i mentioned it

2019-07-17 19:19:53 UTC  

Well some were charged and got community service or simply no jail time or anything else. No one got the prison time.

2019-07-17 19:20:18 UTC  

well, says here it wasn't under the right circumstances:
*"The charge can only be applied to a woman — a mother — who “carried out conduct that causes the death of her child (under two) in circumstances that would constitute murder”, and, whose balance of mind is disturbed because she’s either not recovered from the effect of giving birth, or as a result of “a disorder consequent on her giving birth to that child”.

It’s a rare crime and one that carries different meanings and consequences in different jurisdictions. In New South Wales a mother can only be found guilty of infanticide if she has killed her child under 12 months, under similar circumstances as in the Victorian law, only the punishment will be the same as if it was manslaughter. The partial defence of infanticide is also available in Tasmania, but doesn’t feature in the remaining Australian states’ criminal codes."*

2019-07-17 19:21:50 UTC  

there's more to i than that i can quote if you like

2019-07-17 19:21:51 UTC  

Yes so in some cases infanticide is legal. It is often not that hard to claim you were depressed or whatever. If I am depressed and go kill someone that is murder.

2019-07-17 19:22:25 UTC  

not legal. it's still a crime. but she just didn't get as harsh of a punishment

2019-07-17 19:22:28 UTC  

Rarely should depression mean not a crime.

2019-07-17 19:23:28 UTC  

None were sent to prison. Some had the crime on their criminal record and at least one had to do community service.

2019-07-17 19:25:07 UTC  

Five years max for killing a child. That is just wrong.

2019-07-17 19:25:26 UTC  

didn't you say a year before?

2019-07-17 19:26:36 UTC  

This was a law they wanted to pass I think nationwide. It did not get passed. But these other laws make it rather clear that could well where they are going. This one is worst as I see it.

2019-07-17 19:26:57 UTC  

huh

2019-07-17 19:27:16 UTC  

Five years max for murder. Insane.

2019-07-17 19:27:38 UTC  

that's what they tried for?

2019-07-17 19:27:58 UTC  

If you do not want a child give it for adoption. Do not murder the child.

2019-07-17 19:28:17 UTC  

so you're pro life right?

2019-07-17 19:28:20 UTC  

No they do not call it murder.

2019-07-17 19:28:34 UTC  

yeah, its a different case

2019-07-17 19:28:42 UTC  

they classify it as something else.

2019-07-17 19:28:47 UTC  

more of a lesser crime

2019-07-17 19:28:56 UTC  

Yes. I disagree with abortion period. Not after the child is a month along.

2019-07-17 19:29:19 UTC  

even when the fetus is still growing in the mother?

2019-07-17 19:29:27 UTC  

I am OK with morning after pills taken with in two weeks of missing a period.

2019-07-17 19:30:00 UTC  

Yes that child is another human being. Not OK to murder.

2019-07-17 19:30:33 UTC  

ok then

2019-07-17 19:30:46 UTC  

Once conceived it is human, don't want a kid don't spread your legs

2019-07-17 19:30:58 UTC  

If I am holding up a child. That does not give me the right to murder the child. That is reality. The mother is holding up the child and providing food for the child. It is another human being.

2019-07-17 19:31:18 UTC  

that's why they made birth control and condoms 😆

2019-07-17 19:31:58 UTC  

Yes I am OK with using them. Even to abort a baby two weeks after missing the period. No later than that.

2019-07-17 19:33:22 UTC  

Human cells =humam

2019-07-17 19:33:39 UTC  

Well at a month it is clearly another human being.

2019-07-17 19:33:57 UTC  

At 5 Seconds it's human