it's not just the government responsible for certain developments, there are influential individuals to name

and I'm telling you the word anti-science exists and has a definition

at the same time, I can dive deep

are you rejecting that?

there's a reason to reject these points of view, first of all there's a strawman and guilt by association

nice natural news article in <#551617059013001236>

they are against science

that's a fact, which they admit themselves

hence, anti-science

well, it's not a good source of information of course

which is the reason I follow different sources

interesting, NaturalNews forms the bulwark of the sources presented by those against vaccines

would you object to posting your sources? if you'd like I can do the same

those haven't the strongest arguments, I've got some with stronger arguments

http://vaccinepapers.org/

this source for instance, focuses on the arguments and mechanisms themselves

other sources I use are researchgate, sciencedirect and even pubmed

which are scientific sources of information

what about WHO and the CDC?

they can be reliable, but aren't always reliable

okay I'll give you a fair chance and read over vaccinepapers

it'll take awhile, be warned

on one note, should people who got poor health be vaccinated? Or shouldn't they?

no, I understand medical exemptions

the source goes into detail how aluminium first causes immune activation in the body and what happens when that same process takes place in the brain, how that'll affect behavior

the reasoning is easy to make based on chemistry for the first part:
1) the aluminum salts used in vaccines do not dissolve in water, therefore they do not dissolve in blood or any bodily fluids
2) the come in the form of a suspension that is injected intramuscular in most cases, sometimes intradermal

this is where step 1 begins

step 2, immune activation takes place, macrophages take some of the particles of aluminum

step 3, macrophages travel to the lymph system

and there it likely releases the aluminum, (step 4)

step 5, aluminum travels to the brain

and step 6: immune activation takes place in the brain

@「阿波根うみこ」 eh" please tell me what part you did no understand

furthermore the CDC has dozens of patents on vaccines

I'll list them, they're now being archived

@「阿波根うみこ」 are you on a phone? whats so hard to read/understand

i think you're trolling now

Refute anything i said/showed

I first was looking at this website: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/examining-rfk-jrs-claim-cdc-owns-over-20-vaccine-patents
They use google.com/patents as a source

@「阿波根うみこ」 - do you not see? children receive a million times MORE today, than ..from when i was a kid?!? and ..that i MAYBE 'agree' with getting the BASIC 5 or 6 shots? ..but NOT the millions of shots they get today? and that,.. the ones TODAY ARE▬▬►►► WHATTT CAUSESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS THEEEEEEE HARMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

make sense THIS time?