Message from @Perihelion - CA
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Nothing official, helping out.
@fire.within - FL do you believe it to be most effective to ideologically subvert the GOP and rebuild it in our image, or do you think it would be the path of least resistance to create a fringe party and grow it grassroots style?
Honest question.
Interesting ideas guys, but it's one thing to play grand keyboard strategist and another thing entirely to do the work needed to make it happen.
Not that you asked me, but if grass roots works, the enemy would do it.
The enemies are doing grassroots
@Freiheit - CA Boom. They subverted the Democratic Party. exactly.
@fire.within - FL howso?
@Papa Pizzagate fair point, baby steps.
Are any of you interested in doing that? Exposing yourself as a candidate? Filing the paperwork for a PAC - putting your name out there for it, working for hours every single day at this goal for little to no pay?
or are you just saying "we should do this"
I'm investing time locally @Papa Pizzagate very early stages.
PAC makes no sense without scouting donors first
but it's definitly something we should work toward
@Papa Pizzagate Just taking the temperature.
Got the idea from @V.Balboa - PA
Here’s my plan:
1) Pick a few strategic spots in each region. Get our guys to move near one another
2) Pull a James Allsup and win local elections - mayors, sheriffs, school superintendentss, etc
3) Use local influence to resist POZ
4) Meanwhile, start National pro white party and run candidates to get national name exposure
5) Don't name the Jew (ever) its bad optics.
Step one is easy.
Step two hard
Step two is the hardest really
PAC is potentially more powerful than a party
@Perihelion - CA
"Whatever form white advocacy takes it's going to have to run within frame of Republican party"
I want to argue against this, but I think this is reality. The democratic party is no party for white men, and a sustainable independent party would take too long to build.
It's much easier to "subvert" the republican party, where most of our people are anyway.
Hey I wish we had a Parliamentary system too. But we don't. So we got the GOP. Time to begin the Boomer cleaning.
@fire.within - FL Once again I posit. Are YOU - specifically YOU. actually going to do any of this hard work to make this stuff happen? Or are you just playing grand strategist?
We have a number of MT people living in proximity and want to create a community. Something similar is happening in Ohio. If you really believe your strategy, why have YOU not uprooted and moved there already?
PAC focused on (1) Right to Association (2) Self determination in white majority areas
might work
I'm never gonna dump on people for throwing ideas at the wall. But there's a difference between theory and action.
A BIG difference.
Why should I move to a smaller section of the US? I want all of the US.
throwing ideas at the wall and getting network feedback is where things start
@Papa Pizzagate it's healthy to do this, I would say.
Foolish perhaps, but it doesn't harm anyone at the end of the day, and maybe something useful comes of it one day.
@Jordan - MD Yeah sure it's good to think big, but the theory has to be actionable. If you, yourself are not willing to follow through with your theory or ideal then perhaps it's worth reconsidering.
Again. I've been in this for a while so none of this is particularly new to me.
As a movement elder once told me "nearly everyone claims that they would DIE for their people, but it seems very few are willing to WORK for them"
Can't build a house until you know where it's being built
collective action problem is real
If I felt like there was a workable plan I would absolutely take steps to accomplish it. but first a plan is required, and all we are doing is spitballing at midnight, no harm no foul.
Redundant perhaps but healthy nonetheless