gravity exists

prove it

The tides.

the majority thinks it exists

u are making the claim it doesnt

so

u prove it

I'm appealing to mainstream science's explanation for tides, which is a gravitational "tug" from the moon as it orbits the earth. If you have a better explanation for the tides, I'm all ears.

are u talking to me?

No, just following up to my other post, sorry steveman.

It was directed at umwhat

oh kk

me to

i'd like to discuss the origin of the firmament theory

aside from the bible, where did this idea originate from

i think someone thought that the earth was flying through a medium, and that was called the firmament

the earth does not move

the firmament was there since day 2 of Creation

'aside from the bible,'

Aside from the bible, are there other interpretations of the origin of the firmament

I'd like to set religion aside for this and want to see what other scientific observations led to this conclusion

it's one thing to say what we understand is created from our religion, it's another to say exactly why

from what i understand here was a man that though the earth was flying through a medium, he did some testing to see if this was correct, and found there to be no medium, or firmament

what tests did he do

That goes hard against the religious belief as well, don't know how they would respond to that

I don't really like answers saying that the bible is 100% true, because that implies a lot of bad things that the bible says

you cant really argue against god because its not falsifiable

Hostile defense religious arguments kind of defeat the purpose of the debate

they just fall behind a failsafe and you can't really prod it without exploding

they can just explain anything with "because god"

why is the sky blue? because god made it blue

and it works

even when there is a clear non-religious explanation they just fall behind the safe word

he theorised that if there was a firmament, then light would travel faster in one direction then the other, as one way the light would be going against the firmament, the test he did did not fined these results, this test was conducted using the globe model, and i am trying to fined out who actually did it, this is just from memory

@Nico2020 sounds like michelson and morley

idk

prob

they found that earth was still in the aether

by testing light speed

then einstein came up with a theory that said the earth was still moving

but that the aether didn't exist