with this

Derek, I don't mean to ignore you but I'm talking with jeremy at the moment.

The point is that these are planets, not lights in the sky.

ok planets

Let's say we've never been to space or to other planets, but we know from what we see that space is right.

u wanna call it a planet fine

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I call it what it is.

we know from waht we see space is right ?

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space is exactly like they say just from what we see on earth ?

Due to our observations of both our own earth and other planets.

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NY ; )

We don't just need to take their word for it either.

Hehehe 😊

<<from NY

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We can look for ourselves.

If mars is a physical, terrestrial planet, as claimed, why does it change shape?

we look at the sky and see lights and objects in the sky moving around that proves polaris is 300 light years away ?

You know that picture wasn't taken from a telescope right?

I could use my telescope right now or anyone could really and find Mars in the actual condition it is Derek.

Stop being dishonest.

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Oh looks all the moons are lined up FLAT

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You know every other picture of mars from nasa is a computer generated image, yes? And every other picture of mars from a telescope doesn’t corroborate NASA’s images?

Polaris is a whole other conversation in it's own right, Jeremy. @jeremy

Not every single picture is generated.

Some are, of course, but not all.

A falling star fell from your heart and landed in my eyes / I screamed aloud, as it tore through them, and now it's left me blind

I'm sure you know about Voyager 1? Even if you may believe it to be fake or not.

So when you say we ‘observe’ lights in the sky, such as mars, are planets, you are literally just making a blind unconfirmed statement.

They aren't lights.

We have a name for "lights in the sky" and we call them stars.

You can see actual stars like the sun among others and those are stars, when we look to planets they are planets.

Different things.

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