Message from @jeremy

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2019-05-11 19:39:38 UTC  

When we hypothesize the earth is flat, based on observations, the tests pass.

2019-05-11 19:40:17 UTC  

Only if you have a conflicting belief, where you hypothesize different, based on no observation, would you argue otherwise.

2019-05-11 19:40:59 UTC  

That is not a provable method.

2019-05-11 19:42:34 UTC  

The ships going over the curve is debunked in my mind

2019-05-11 19:42:39 UTC  

half bad

2019-05-11 19:42:48 UTC  

Ok, so we observe the horizon, looks flat, maybe the earth surface is a flat plane. That becomes our hypothesis. So, we have to test it. What does the flat earth predict the horizon distance to be and how it interacts with distant objects?
These are questions that we would think about in the scientific method.

2019-05-11 19:43:32 UTC  

And experimentation is after the hypothesis where we test it

2019-05-11 19:44:32 UTC  

We need to measure how far the boats are out

2019-05-11 19:44:41 UTC  

If ships did go over a curve, we could obviously see that curve at a higher altitude. But we don’t.

2019-05-11 19:45:59 UTC  

Seriously how can u get 120 k feet up and not see a curve but the boat 3 miles away at ground level is going over a curve

2019-05-11 19:46:07 UTC  

Right.

2019-05-11 19:46:13 UTC  

That is why hypothesis' are so helpful and necessary, because we could have expectations and see if what we observe matches what we expect given the hypothesis. Like the visibility of earth curve and rates of obstruction

2019-05-11 19:46:55 UTC  

We need to measure the boats how far are they while we can still see it

2019-05-11 19:47:25 UTC  

I think you’re stressing hypothesis because you have a belief that you can’t actually prove, Astral.

2019-05-11 19:47:32 UTC  

Even if we see it the globe model excuse is it’s a mirage like Chicago from Michigan

2019-05-11 19:47:46 UTC  

Astral isn’t a glober

2019-05-11 19:47:55 UTC  

Spare me the word play.

2019-05-11 19:47:57 UTC  

He defends it though sometimes

2019-05-11 19:47:59 UTC  

I know he isn’t.

2019-05-11 19:48:33 UTC  

Hypothesis' are meant to be falsifiable and testable, I can't really hide behind it

2019-05-11 19:48:41 UTC  

Even if we measure the boat and it’s ten or 20 miles out they will say mirage

2019-05-11 19:49:18 UTC  

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2019-05-11 19:49:35 UTC  

I believe what can be observed

2019-05-11 19:49:45 UTC  

And verified by the populace

2019-05-11 19:51:27 UTC  

Globers often try to hide behind it, by spending so much time debating what hypothesis even means. It’s like if I were to ask them if they know what the shape of the earth is, they would reply with, ‘it depends what your definition of ‘is’, is.. It’s exhaustingly redundantly obfuscating.

2019-05-11 19:52:30 UTC  

I never see that happen myself, so idk where you chat

2019-05-11 19:52:54 UTC  

Hello

2019-05-11 19:54:28 UTC  

Hi

2019-05-11 19:54:37 UTC  

The same areas that produce arguments where they try to undermine observation. Because it doesn’t support them.

2019-05-11 19:55:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484514023698726912/576859835308703744/image0.jpg

2019-05-11 19:55:56 UTC  

what do you guys think about this

2019-05-11 19:57:21 UTC  

How high is that balloon?

2019-05-11 19:57:24 UTC  

@Soldz (CF) 👋 ...

2019-05-11 19:57:36 UTC  

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2019-05-11 19:57:39 UTC  

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2019-05-11 19:58:09 UTC  

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2019-05-11 19:58:18 UTC  

does it matter?

2019-05-11 19:58:29 UTC  

i can see the corners of the flat earth in that video 👀👀👀

2019-05-11 19:58:31 UTC  

Fisheye lenz showing curve doesn't show actual horizon, just distortion

2019-05-11 19:58:45 UTC  

yeah i thought you were gonna say that