Message from @jeremy
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keep snorting your own crotch fumes guys
doing great
I'll have to go back and look
Here you go, Astral.
The scientific method requires 3 main parts. 1) Observation, 2) Measurement, and 3) Experiment. All we ever observe in real life, is a flat earth. All we ever measure in real life, is zero curvature. All we can ever experiment in real life, where water always seeks to find and maintain it’s level, is a flat earth. Flat earth passes all 3 requirements. Ball earth passes none of them. It’s why flat earth is not a theory, and ball earth is. And why mainstream science, are lying their asses off.
yeah that's not actual evidence
It’s proof.
Thanks.
I have to disagree on your formulation. Observation as #1 is accurate, but then it goes to hypothesis and measurement is a feature of experimentation, not distinct steps.
Go ahead. Form a hypothesis where earth is a ball based on no observation, measurement, or experiment of curve.
I’ll wait.
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You initially observe something and then construct a hypothesis to explain that and have it make testable predictions. You proceed to test those, almost like you are trying to falsify it and as long as it remains unfalsified, it stands, even tho you cannot 'prove' it 100%
If we don’t observe any curve, why would you hypothesize a curve?
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It’s like you’re saying I can’t prove a square piece of paper, is a square 100%. I’m sorry, but that is false.
Well, there are many potential observations that could lead us to think we might be on a spherical surface, for example, ships over the horizon disappearing hull before mast, the behavior of the stars and how we visualize them, even just the horizon being there, you could consider it being a physical obstruction.
And then we have our hypothesis, its predictions, and we can test it to see if it matches.
When we hypothesize the earth is flat, based on observations, the tests pass.
Only if you have a conflicting belief, where you hypothesize different, based on no observation, would you argue otherwise.
That is not a provable method.
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Ok, so we observe the horizon, looks flat, maybe the earth surface is a flat plane. That becomes our hypothesis. So, we have to test it. What does the flat earth predict the horizon distance to be and how it interacts with distant objects?
These are questions that we would think about in the scientific method.
And experimentation is after the hypothesis where we test it
We need to measure how far the boats are out
If ships did go over a curve, we could obviously see that curve at a higher altitude. But we don’t.
Seriously how can u get 120 k feet up and not see a curve but the boat 3 miles away at ground level is going over a curve
Right.
That is why hypothesis' are so helpful and necessary, because we could have expectations and see if what we observe matches what we expect given the hypothesis. Like the visibility of earth curve and rates of obstruction
We need to measure the boats how far are they while we can still see it
I think you’re stressing hypothesis because you have a belief that you can’t actually prove, Astral.
Even if we see it the globe model excuse is it’s a mirage like Chicago from Michigan
Astral isn’t a glober
Spare me the word play.
He defends it though sometimes
I know he isn’t.
Hypothesis' are meant to be falsifiable and testable, I can't really hide behind it
Even if we measure the boat and it’s ten or 20 miles out they will say mirage
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I believe what can be observed
And verified by the populace