Message from @Derek Nelson

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2019-05-11 19:24:30 UTC  

@Deleted User <:BigSmiles:556070613224259594>

2019-05-11 19:24:35 UTC  

You are the thunder ⚡ and I am the lightning 🌩

2019-05-11 19:24:44 UTC  

Ay e so. Kitchen

2019-05-11 19:27:09 UTC  

Kitchen, I literally explained the scientific method, that determines proof, and how flat earth actually operates by it, and ball earth doesn’t, and we are the brick walls? I’m sorry, but no.

2019-05-11 19:27:30 UTC  

Sounds great

2019-05-11 19:27:52 UTC  

keep snorting your own crotch fumes guys

2019-05-11 19:27:54 UTC  

doing great

2019-05-11 19:27:58 UTC  

I'll have to go back and look

2019-05-11 19:29:08 UTC  

Here you go, Astral.

2019-05-11 19:29:15 UTC  

The scientific method requires 3 main parts. 1) Observation, 2) Measurement, and 3) Experiment. All we ever observe in real life, is a flat earth. All we ever measure in real life, is zero curvature. All we can ever experiment in real life, where water always seeks to find and maintain it’s level, is a flat earth. Flat earth passes all 3 requirements. Ball earth passes none of them. It’s why flat earth is not a theory, and ball earth is. And why mainstream science, are lying their asses off.

2019-05-11 19:29:37 UTC  

yeah that's not actual evidence

2019-05-11 19:29:45 UTC  

It’s proof.

2019-05-11 19:29:49 UTC  

Thanks.

2019-05-11 19:31:39 UTC  

I have to disagree on your formulation. Observation as #1 is accurate, but then it goes to hypothesis and measurement is a feature of experimentation, not distinct steps.

2019-05-11 19:32:14 UTC  

Go ahead. Form a hypothesis where earth is a ball based on no observation, measurement, or experiment of curve.

2019-05-11 19:32:26 UTC  

I’ll wait.

2019-05-11 19:33:03 UTC  

They don't like to see you winninnnnnn, they wanna see you in a penitentiaryyyyy

2019-05-11 19:34:41 UTC  

You initially observe something and then construct a hypothesis to explain that and have it make testable predictions. You proceed to test those, almost like you are trying to falsify it and as long as it remains unfalsified, it stands, even tho you cannot 'prove' it 100%

2019-05-11 19:35:36 UTC  

If we don’t observe any curve, why would you hypothesize a curve?

2019-05-11 19:37:57 UTC  

🐖

2019-05-11 19:38:11 UTC  

It’s like you’re saying I can’t prove a square piece of paper, is a square 100%. I’m sorry, but that is false.

2019-05-11 19:38:58 UTC  

Well, there are many potential observations that could lead us to think we might be on a spherical surface, for example, ships over the horizon disappearing hull before mast, the behavior of the stars and how we visualize them, even just the horizon being there, you could consider it being a physical obstruction.
And then we have our hypothesis, its predictions, and we can test it to see if it matches.

2019-05-11 19:39:38 UTC  

When we hypothesize the earth is flat, based on observations, the tests pass.

2019-05-11 19:40:17 UTC  

Only if you have a conflicting belief, where you hypothesize different, based on no observation, would you argue otherwise.

2019-05-11 19:40:59 UTC  

That is not a provable method.

2019-05-11 19:42:34 UTC  

The ships going over the curve is debunked in my mind

2019-05-11 19:42:39 UTC  

half bad

2019-05-11 19:42:48 UTC  

Ok, so we observe the horizon, looks flat, maybe the earth surface is a flat plane. That becomes our hypothesis. So, we have to test it. What does the flat earth predict the horizon distance to be and how it interacts with distant objects?
These are questions that we would think about in the scientific method.

2019-05-11 19:43:32 UTC  

And experimentation is after the hypothesis where we test it

2019-05-11 19:44:32 UTC  

We need to measure how far the boats are out

2019-05-11 19:44:41 UTC  

If ships did go over a curve, we could obviously see that curve at a higher altitude. But we don’t.

2019-05-11 19:45:59 UTC  

Seriously how can u get 120 k feet up and not see a curve but the boat 3 miles away at ground level is going over a curve

2019-05-11 19:46:07 UTC  

Right.

2019-05-11 19:46:13 UTC  

That is why hypothesis' are so helpful and necessary, because we could have expectations and see if what we observe matches what we expect given the hypothesis. Like the visibility of earth curve and rates of obstruction

2019-05-11 19:46:55 UTC  

We need to measure the boats how far are they while we can still see it

2019-05-11 19:47:25 UTC  

I think you’re stressing hypothesis because you have a belief that you can’t actually prove, Astral.

2019-05-11 19:47:32 UTC  

Even if we see it the globe model excuse is it’s a mirage like Chicago from Michigan

2019-05-11 19:47:46 UTC  

Astral isn’t a glober

2019-05-11 19:47:55 UTC  

Spare me the word play.

2019-05-11 19:47:57 UTC  

He defends it though sometimes

2019-05-11 19:47:59 UTC  

I know he isn’t.