Message from @Perihelion - CA

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2019-02-21 18:25:51 UTC  

Look to anabaptist theology and it's connection to progressivism

2019-02-21 18:25:58 UTC  

puritan memes grew out of hand

2019-02-21 18:26:58 UTC  

Another point is that advocating monarchy will literally get you nowhere (not you personally @Perihelion - CA)

2019-02-21 18:27:10 UTC  

I see a lot of people in here advocate some kind of throwback thing

2019-02-21 18:27:19 UTC  

To some sort of despotism

2019-02-21 18:27:20 UTC  

strict monarchy is no good

2019-02-21 18:27:28 UTC  

bicameralism has potential

2019-02-21 18:27:38 UTC  

It’s unfeasible for one

2019-02-21 18:27:50 UTC  

There are like maybe 1,000 monarchists in the entire United States

2019-02-21 18:27:54 UTC  

corporate rule is literally bicameralism

2019-02-21 18:27:58 UTC  

you don't call it a monarchy

2019-02-21 18:28:14 UTC  

Eh. I think many things could be better than the ala carte communism that is democracy. Maybe not monarchy but its gotta be something

2019-02-21 18:28:19 UTC  

Advocating for such things really just self-gratification at that point

2019-02-21 18:28:36 UTC  

We are trying to create a realistic positive and *appealing* movement

2019-02-21 18:28:55 UTC  

@Andrew-KY We aren’t a democracy

2019-02-21 18:28:59 UTC  

call it a republic

2019-02-21 18:29:19 UTC  

I mean you can meme it as whatever but you need to be honest with yourself about what it is

2019-02-21 18:29:36 UTC  

A constitutional republic. Aye

2019-02-21 18:30:38 UTC  

a congress comprised of land holders with a unitary executive vested with broad powers

2019-02-21 18:30:44 UTC  

it's corporate bicameralism

2019-02-21 18:30:51 UTC  

call it a republic if that's the meme that works

2019-02-21 18:30:56 UTC  

Whatever you want to call it

2019-02-21 18:31:04 UTC  

Its a representative democracy. That's what all modern democracy is

2019-02-21 18:31:06 UTC  

But you can’t just call it something and *poof*

2019-02-21 18:31:22 UTC  

The constitution is just a guideline that can be voted out

2019-02-21 18:31:41 UTC  

Nothing is permanent if you don’t want it to be

2019-02-21 18:31:45 UTC  

Democracy is a bad form of government and Founder's thought so

2019-02-21 18:31:52 UTC  

^

2019-02-21 18:32:29 UTC  

What was that quote? "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the other ones."

2019-02-21 18:32:31 UTC  

The United States government is made up of representatives who act in the people’s interest after being voted in

2019-02-21 18:32:43 UTC  

If this were a democracy

2019-02-21 18:32:45 UTC  

No man Democracy is definitly worse than other forms

2019-02-21 18:32:47 UTC  

That wouldn’t be a thing

2019-02-21 18:33:22 UTC  

Maybe a very restricted form a suffrage could do it but even then it allows for no long term planning

2019-02-21 18:33:51 UTC  

bicameralism is the best solution as proven by centuries of free market selection

2019-02-21 18:34:54 UTC  

Ive always been partial to either anarchocapitalism or Chinese style thin authoritarianism. One is the most free, the other is how you take over the world

2019-02-21 18:35:29 UTC  

anarchocapitalism requires a supreme judiciary which it has no theory of regulating

2019-02-21 18:35:44 UTC  

Nah, it just requires white people

2019-02-21 18:36:19 UTC  

care to offer a historical example of that being a stable solution for white people?

2019-02-21 18:36:31 UTC  

There arent any. Its never been done

2019-02-21 18:36:42 UTC  

Kind of a weak position