Message from @Perihelion - CA

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2019-02-21 18:28:55 UTC  

@Andrew-KY We aren’t a democracy

2019-02-21 18:28:59 UTC  

call it a republic

2019-02-21 18:29:19 UTC  

I mean you can meme it as whatever but you need to be honest with yourself about what it is

2019-02-21 18:29:36 UTC  

A constitutional republic. Aye

2019-02-21 18:30:38 UTC  

a congress comprised of land holders with a unitary executive vested with broad powers

2019-02-21 18:30:44 UTC  

it's corporate bicameralism

2019-02-21 18:30:51 UTC  

call it a republic if that's the meme that works

2019-02-21 18:30:56 UTC  

Whatever you want to call it

2019-02-21 18:31:04 UTC  

Its a representative democracy. That's what all modern democracy is

2019-02-21 18:31:06 UTC  

But you can’t just call it something and *poof*

2019-02-21 18:31:22 UTC  

The constitution is just a guideline that can be voted out

2019-02-21 18:31:41 UTC  

Nothing is permanent if you don’t want it to be

2019-02-21 18:31:45 UTC  

Democracy is a bad form of government and Founder's thought so

2019-02-21 18:31:52 UTC  

^

2019-02-21 18:32:29 UTC  

What was that quote? "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the other ones."

2019-02-21 18:32:31 UTC  

The United States government is made up of representatives who act in the people’s interest after being voted in

2019-02-21 18:32:43 UTC  

If this were a democracy

2019-02-21 18:32:45 UTC  

No man Democracy is definitly worse than other forms

2019-02-21 18:32:47 UTC  

That wouldn’t be a thing

2019-02-21 18:33:22 UTC  

Maybe a very restricted form a suffrage could do it but even then it allows for no long term planning

2019-02-21 18:33:51 UTC  

bicameralism is the best solution as proven by centuries of free market selection

2019-02-21 18:34:54 UTC  

Ive always been partial to either anarchocapitalism or Chinese style thin authoritarianism. One is the most free, the other is how you take over the world

2019-02-21 18:35:29 UTC  

anarchocapitalism requires a supreme judiciary which it has no theory of regulating

2019-02-21 18:35:44 UTC  

Nah, it just requires white people

2019-02-21 18:36:19 UTC  

care to offer a historical example of that being a stable solution for white people?

2019-02-21 18:36:31 UTC  

There arent any. Its never been done

2019-02-21 18:36:42 UTC  

Kind of a weak position

2019-02-21 18:36:49 UTC  

I don't man I can't buy into the "any government works as long as it's just white people"

2019-02-21 18:36:51 UTC  

Issue number 1 tbh

2019-02-21 18:37:01 UTC  

Unfortunately haha wish it were true

2019-02-21 18:37:34 UTC  

Listen to some Molyneux presentations on it

2019-02-21 18:39:19 UTC  

Think of a government as an ecosystem. It's not enough for it to work at one moment. It needs to be a stable solution. Anarcho-systems are very vulnerable to infrilitration

2019-02-21 18:39:40 UTC  

What is there to infiltrate?

2019-02-21 18:39:49 UTC  

I know libertarianism is a dead meme but I really do wish we could just leave people to their own devices and trust they won't trespass against people and handle the responsibility

2019-02-21 18:39:50 UTC  

In practice maximum freedom as a stable system seems to reside within a powerful executive

2019-02-21 18:39:59 UTC  

Most crappy stuff that has happened in this country has been either passed by through Congress but was not supported by the majority of the people or was enacting by the Judicial Branch against the will of the people. I think if you limited the vote to white men, over the age of 25 and have started a families we would be fine. When this country enfranchised women and non-whites it went down the drain.

2019-02-21 18:40:35 UTC  

Land owners with children. Thats the only way democracy can kinda work.

2019-02-21 18:40:45 UTC  

Bruh, white men over 25 with land VOTED to give the vote away. Men VOTED to give the vote to women. Whites VOTED to give the vote to blacks.

2019-02-21 18:40:45 UTC  

We had that before though and look where we are now

2019-02-21 18:40:49 UTC  

It's not a stable solution

2019-02-21 18:41:00 UTC  

I'm ready to be conscripted into the McDonalds/Tacobell military academy tbh
Yay anarcho-capitalism!