Message from @Drover Tom

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2019-02-22 00:49:50 UTC  

are all of us from the same place? @DixieBoy76 - KY @Drover Tom

2019-02-22 00:50:09 UTC  

Hundreds of years on that specific line, which is very distant. We are all related to millions of people closer than we realize.

2019-02-22 00:51:02 UTC  

@Jacob Depends if we're talking pre or post Poland

2019-02-22 00:51:23 UTC  

@Mitchell-TX yep mom’s side is Anglo that’s the side that’s been here since the 1600’s

2019-02-22 00:51:53 UTC  

@Drover Tom my ancestors lived in the same place for hundreds of years

2019-02-22 00:51:56 UTC  

@Drover Tom @Jacob Return Prussia to the Prussians

2019-02-22 00:51:58 UTC  

so both pre and post lol

2019-02-22 00:52:06 UTC  

Return Prussia to the Prussians Jacob

2019-02-22 00:52:08 UTC  

Do it

2019-02-22 00:52:12 UTC  

Personally go there

2019-02-22 00:52:16 UTC  

Probably are then

2019-02-22 00:52:17 UTC  

And return it

2019-02-22 00:52:24 UTC  

😂

2019-02-22 00:52:30 UTC  

> was Polish before it was German
> return
🤔 🤔 🤔

2019-02-22 00:52:34 UTC  

I’ll have my sister bake you a cake

2019-02-22 00:52:37 UTC  

It wasn’t polish

2019-02-22 00:52:44 UTC  

It was old Prussian which was a Baltic people

2019-02-22 00:52:45 UTC  

people have this weird idea that Poland started in 1918 out of thin air

2019-02-22 00:52:59 UTC  

Prussia owned that area since the early Middle Ages

2019-02-22 00:53:08 UTC  

Ever heard of the Teutonic Knights 😂

2019-02-22 00:53:13 UTC  

The people there now though aren't the same as pre 1918

2019-02-22 00:53:39 UTC  

It was Prussian before it was German (Prussians aren't actually German; they're Balts, like Latvians and Lithuanians). 😎

2019-02-22 00:53:41 UTC  

Because of the whole ethnic cleansing of eastern europe of germans post ww2 thing

2019-02-22 00:53:43 UTC  

The Russians ethnically cleansed Prussia after WW2

2019-02-22 00:54:05 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD that’s why I tell people I’m Prussian and not German

2019-02-22 00:54:19 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD No, that's only East Prussia

2019-02-22 00:54:39 UTC  

Alt Hype talks about how in Western Europe, almost everyone is related to royalty because the lower classes were continuously dying off and being replaced by the next class higher

2019-02-22 00:55:00 UTC  

Or unextroardinary members of higher classes

2019-02-22 00:55:12 UTC  

"The people there now though aren't the same as pre 1918"
This talking point *might* work if my ancestors weren't Kashubian, who were there before both Germans and regular Polaks @Drover Tom

2019-02-22 00:55:23 UTC  

@Jacob Politically, yeah, but I'm just saying that linguistically all Prussians are Balts, not actually Germans. They were merely Germanicized by the Teutonic Order during the "Northern Crusades".

2019-02-22 00:55:26 UTC  

Related to royalty? Hunny, I *IS* royalty 👄💅🏻

2019-02-22 00:55:30 UTC  

So we're all just descendants of shitty merchants

2019-02-22 00:56:16 UTC  

When you look closely at the lines, you can see where cousins married and where commoners married into noble families. All kinds of interesting things.

2019-02-22 00:56:24 UTC  

@John O - The Hanseatic pill <:redpill:439924063377555497>

2019-02-22 00:56:27 UTC  

@Jacob I'm talking more culturally and socially not necessarily ethnic

2019-02-22 00:56:33 UTC  

"Because of the whole ethnic cleansing of eastern europe of germans post ww2 thing"

I guess, but, I mean this just depends how far back you wanna go. Sure, Poland kicked Germans out. But Germans were only there because they kicked the original Polaks out.

2019-02-22 00:57:05 UTC  

Culturally and socially Kashubians were in Pomerania the longest

2019-02-22 00:57:23 UTC  

I am pretty sure my ancestors were Old Prussians but ancestry picks that up as Germanic.

2019-02-22 00:57:27 UTC  

@Jacob Granted. Even a significant amount of Germany proper was originally inhabited by Western Slavs, hence the Sorbs.

2019-02-22 00:57:41 UTC  

Because I uploaded to GEDMatch and it shows a lot of Baltic genes

2019-02-22 00:57:48 UTC  

They were all pretty much the same though, like under the Prussian/German empire