it looks flat because the earth is very large, and you cannot perceive it on your own

with nothing but argument ad-populem while calling us 'anti intellectual'

No, Logos, you're strawmanning me

@Pwnelius exactly. Its a given law in geometry that with any large sphere, and a small observing body, things look flat, due to the sheer size of the sphere

Your argument is "It LOOKS flat, so it must be flat"

which was the belief humans held for thousands of years

it is observably flat. that is all we're saying

you mean it's perceptively flat

a belief human sheeple held for thousands of years

not observably flat

That's an argument from incredulity assuming the earth is too large to fathom.
That's a logical fallacy and a half, bro.
@Pwnelius

Obvious to your senses

That's not an argument from incredulity, please go look up what that means

the EARTH is MEASUREABLE

Only your mind tells you otherwise

yeah and your mind tells you it's flat, right?

you're backing yourself into the exact same trap you're setting for me

Not at all

My senses tell me it's flat

right.

"it LOOKS flat, therefore it MUST be flat"

If you call the scientific method a trap, okay then.

I've been to many countries and to the middle of the ocean and seen only flat.

we're just starting with the basic steps of the scientific method. OBSERVATION is the first thing you do

My exact experience tells me it's flat

My mind agrees with my senses

so you're basing your beliefs on your own perceptions

Your mind does not

and pre-suppositions

**Experience**

yes. yours on the other hand are based on religious belief

faith in the globe

Not perception

Ah, so therefore, nothing truly exists

Atoms do not exist because you never experience them?

That's not at all what I'm arguing

Yes it is

Why are you trying to link the two?

Is not

you argued that "It's what I perceive, therefore it's true"