1 timothy 5:23

point is, we should be sober, also remember what Jesus said.

**1 Timothy 5:23 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<23> No longer drink only water, but take a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments. ```

So yes, we are trying to determine at what point something can become a sin. In my experience, it’s when I lost my ability to control myself.

Ecclesiastes 9:7

**Ecclesiastes 9:7 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<7> Go, eat your bread with enjoyment, and drink your wine with a merry heart; for God has long ago approved what you do. ```

proverbs 21:6

**Proverbs 21:6 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<6> The getting of treasures by a lying tongue is a fleeting vapor and a snare of death. ```

oops wrong one

proverbs 31:6

**Proverbs 31:6 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<6> Give strong drink to one who is perishing, and wine to those in bitter distress; ```

Psalm 104:14-15 English Standard Version (ESV)

14 You cause the grass to grow for the livestock
and plants for man to cultivate,
that he may bring forth food from the earth
15 and wine to gladden the heart of man,
oil to make his face shine
and bread to strengthen man's heart.

**Psalm 104:14-15 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<14> You cause the grass to grow for the cattle, and plants for people to use, to bring forth food from the earth, <15> and wine to gladden the human heart, oil to make the face shine, and bread to strengthen the human heart. ```

Luke 10:25-28 Amen

**Luke 10:25-28 - King James Version (KJV)**

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<25> And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? <26> He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? <27> And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. <28> And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. ```

you can partake of these things without “getting drunk”

yeah posting the same stretched justification and ignoring everything i said

yeah, even in Jewish ceremonies wine is used

like passover

Even Jesus drank wine. Of course he was not ruled by it.

please note though, that wine used to be much weaker back then

you’re wrong bro, its not what you partake, its how you partake. dedicate it to god, don’t do so much that you become drunk, and its fine. this is coming from someone who doesn’t drink or smoke, i have researched this

I mean using the bible to justify drinking wine is kinda a stretch isn't it?

i think he's justifying moderation.

yeah basically

I'm talking about drinking wine in general

drinking wine in itself isn't evil.

I just posted like 5 verses that justify moderation specifically, just sayin

I know drinking wine is fine at least bibically but I still won't partake in any type of drinking

thats fine

we never said you have to

neither do I unless I’m offered wine at dinner, its impolite to reject what is offered

pretty much

Are any debates going on now?

Respectful dialogue atm.

So, back to the start. Is smoking weed a sin?

Yes

yeah.

I think

I'm pretty sure it falls under some type of religious-no nos

sometimes in the bible, the word sorcerer is connotative of drug user