Message from @Jordan - MD

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2019-02-28 17:30:11 UTC  

I'm not arguing for it, I'm just saying that it was much better, for a thousand years, at retaining its people

2019-02-28 17:30:33 UTC  

It is constitutional. Originally the people weren't even supposed to have a hand in electing the President. The fact that states decided to allow the people to influence the election is just something they decided to do. A gift they gave us and can take away.

2019-02-28 17:30:42 UTC  

The truth is, power corrupts.

2019-02-28 17:31:12 UTC  

Power lets you show your flaws

2019-02-28 17:31:34 UTC  

Its not inherently corrupting

2019-02-28 17:32:10 UTC  

Power is like a magnifying glass for mental and emotional deficiencies

2019-02-28 17:32:14 UTC  

@sigruna14 I wouldn't be too against that, but with our leaders in every corner of the country not representing the people I would not trust them to make that decision, they would elect a Cohen really quick

2019-02-28 17:32:55 UTC  

@Jordan - MD I'm not saying I'm for or against. Just that what Colorado is doing is legal.

2019-02-28 17:33:20 UTC  

There's no measures we can take? No court that we can challenge this in?

2019-02-28 17:33:31 UTC  

The wording of the law makes a difference but there is a legal way to accomplish their intent

2019-02-28 17:33:44 UTC  

I know there are streets to March in, I'm surprised that the rural areas aren't flooding the city streets right now

2019-02-28 17:34:05 UTC  

The measure would be elect a new CO legislature

2019-02-28 17:34:24 UTC  

@Jordan - MD Unless I'm very mistaken, there's nothing in the Constitution that says the states have to consider the will of the people at all in appointing electors. So no. Nothing other than a constitutional amendment.

2019-02-28 17:35:02 UTC  

Wealth and booming cities always multiplies liberals

2019-02-28 17:35:18 UTC  

This is why they want to legalize marijuana everywhere they go, it helps keep the sheep complacent

2019-02-28 17:35:32 UTC  

As much as I'm tactically pro-unitary executive, as time goes on, it seems more and more to me that subsidiarity is going to be part of the answer to our problems. We need to decentralize authority as much as possible, because the worse of our elites have shown their malevolence, and the even the best have shown themselves to be completely impotent.

2019-02-28 17:36:09 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD Article 1 Section 8 was supposed to do just that, but they don't care.

2019-02-28 17:36:27 UTC  

Novel decentralized goverment solutions are now possible given distributed ledger tech

2019-02-28 17:36:37 UTC  

But none have emerged yet

2019-02-28 17:37:06 UTC  

Half the laws Congress makes shouldn't pass constitutional muster without amending the powers of Congress.

2019-02-28 17:37:08 UTC  

I know it's a pipe dream but I would welcome a true populist dictator at this point. These problems are very time-sensitive

2019-02-28 17:37:14 UTC  

Government at most abstract level is a collective action problem which distributive ledger solves

2019-02-28 17:38:03 UTC  

@sigruna14 Here’s the thing about The Constitution, however. It’s not a “restrictive” document when it comes to authority it grants the government. It’s “permissive.” It tells the government what it has the authority to do. If it’s not a power granted by The Constitution, in writing, it’s not a power granted by omission.

2019-02-28 17:38:06 UTC  

CPAC is so dull
Check out @ahardtospell’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/ahardtospell/status/1100834951166115846?s=09

2019-02-28 17:38:35 UTC  

@sigruna14 True, but I'm talking *deep* decentralization (referenda, recalls, and the return to a non-federally coopted system of local collective defense).

2019-02-28 17:38:58 UTC  

@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL too bad all real power is vested in SCOTUS. Worst oversight by founders tbh

2019-02-28 17:39:02 UTC  

@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL Tenth Amendment says the states can do anything other than what the Constitution explicitly says they can't or reserves for Congress.

2019-02-28 17:39:50 UTC  

Constitution is kinda dead. What matters is SCOTUS precedent

2019-02-28 17:40:04 UTC  

Have we tried turning America off, waiting 10 seconds, and turning it back on again? I hear that fixes most things

2019-02-28 17:41:21 UTC  

@sigruna14 The States. Not “The Government”, as in Federal. The States must then have their own individual Constitution. And same rules apply there: they cannot grant themselves power by omission

2019-02-28 17:43:38 UTC  

States can constitutionally do anyting not explicitly forbidden

2019-02-28 17:44:28 UTC  

Or that SCOTUS has not forbidden since SCOTUS is as powerful as constitution

2019-02-28 17:44:58 UTC  

Let our ranks swell. It seems to be our only hope.

2019-02-28 17:45:42 UTC  

Article 1 Section 8 should be amended to remove the "general welfare" clause and move the ability to lay taxes to the end of the section and add the condition that taxes may only be raised directly to fund one of the foregoing powers.

2019-02-28 17:46:26 UTC  

That would, in theory, make a lot of federal overreach a lot harder. They'd have to amend the Constitution every time they wanted to pass some new law.

2019-02-28 17:46:44 UTC  

One day the Millennials will be in the Supreme Court.

2019-02-28 17:46:57 UTC  

God save us all.

2019-02-28 17:46:58 UTC  

Tbh i think USG is a dead horse. Real power was always in media and finance. We need to focus on building our financial and information network.

2019-02-28 17:47:49 UTC  

Money and information can sway a monarcy, much more a democracy

2019-02-28 17:48:46 UTC  

We just need to convince Elon Musk to build us a Starship. I'm telling you.

2019-02-28 17:49:32 UTC  

I'm half kidding but sort of not