Message from @mineyful

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2019-07-30 01:34:07 UTC  

you only pretend they aren't when you pretend the sun's rays are entirely parallel

2019-07-30 01:34:10 UTC  

ye

2019-07-30 01:34:19 UTC  

that would cause divergent rays too

2019-07-30 01:34:47 UTC  

it would affect the divergence is more what i should say

2019-07-30 01:34:59 UTC  

all rays that aren't from an infinite sun and parallel, are divergent

2019-07-30 01:35:40 UTC  

also i couldd see your point that, if you can say they're roughly parallel

2019-07-30 01:35:48 UTC  

then you could say their divergence could be roughly unaffected at one point

2019-07-30 01:35:55 UTC  

that's fine, until the fact that the wells are separated

2019-07-30 01:36:04 UTC  

so it's different portions of atmosphere, each which can refract differently

2019-07-30 01:36:09 UTC  

so the result is still unpredictable

2019-07-30 01:36:35 UTC  

yeah, that link is pretending that the sun's rays are parallel

2019-07-30 01:36:44 UTC  

like, you can see from his diagrams that they aren't

2019-07-30 01:36:53 UTC  

but that, you know, close enough

2019-07-30 01:37:55 UTC  

but ye if we're being honest about the physics

2019-07-30 01:38:03 UTC  

the issue is that the rays will travel through 2 different parts of the atmosphere

2019-07-30 01:38:21 UTC  

so parallel or not, they'll get refracted differently just bc it's 2 separate bits of atmosphere

2019-07-30 01:38:39 UTC  

and that can affect divergence and everything else and put it all out of whack

2019-07-30 01:39:08 UTC  

i.e. in terms of the well, light above one well gets bent at another angle than at the other one. and experiment broken

2019-07-30 01:40:14 UTC  

ye eratosthenes was a good start, but now modern science and technology provide better and more accurate experiments to prove the earth is round

2019-07-30 01:40:22 UTC  

it's because of these points we don't use sticks to prove the earth is round

2019-07-30 01:40:51 UTC  

yeahh that makes sense

2019-07-30 01:41:03 UTC  

but the modern proofs have become so inaccessible

2019-07-30 01:41:17 UTC  

that it's actually possible to question if they're legitimate

2019-07-30 01:41:43 UTC  

butyeah we can agree on the sticks at least

2019-07-30 01:55:36 UTC  

why is it inaccessible

2019-07-30 01:57:16 UTC  
2019-07-30 02:30:09 UTC  

@Alexandre like, cavendish is the main one

2019-07-30 02:30:25 UTC  

so, we're supposed to be able to see two iron balls attract

2019-07-30 02:30:51 UTC  

except then nope...gravity's too weak, you have to do it in a restricted setting in a university or govt lab

2019-07-30 02:38:16 UTC  

What about foccault's pendulum

2019-07-30 02:40:17 UTC  

The Earth is not round or flat, it's a cube

2019-07-30 03:02:28 UTC  

@GreenPixel it's an interesting approach but funnily enough i've heard the same thing about that

2019-07-30 03:03:19 UTC  

from globe earthers at least, that it's too small and sensitive to friction to carry out

2019-07-30 03:03:58 UTC  

i feel like things along these lines are worth testing though

2019-07-30 03:18:24 UTC  

Its definitely hard to achieve on one's own, but it is much more publicly accessible and visible that cavendish I think

2019-07-30 03:18:46 UTC  

There are several large ones around the world that are open to visitors

2019-07-30 03:18:59 UTC  

Although there's always the motor argument

2019-07-30 03:56:16 UTC  

it does feel more approachable. for looking for/disproving the earth's rotation i feel like something similar could work

2019-07-30 03:57:33 UTC  

for the public ones that you can't mess with yourself, yeah, i think it's hard to avoid that those could be rigged

2019-07-30 04:21:47 UTC  

@Mone FAKE. Trump did not work with Russia at all. Hillary and Obama did both are Communist so that makes complete sense.

Trump is a Nationalist. Not a Socialist like NAZI is. Obama and Hillary are NAZI's as well. They support Antifa the same group of NAZI's in Germany by the same name translated to English. They lie they are anti fascist when in reality they are the fascist in America.