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2019-07-30 01:33:58 UTC  

they have to be divergent in order to originate from a point sun and reach two wells

2019-07-30 01:34:02 UTC  

that little ms paint drawing you made

2019-07-30 01:34:07 UTC  

you only pretend they aren't when you pretend the sun's rays are entirely parallel

2019-07-30 01:34:10 UTC  

ye

2019-07-30 01:34:19 UTC  

that would cause divergent rays too

2019-07-30 01:34:47 UTC  

it would affect the divergence is more what i should say

2019-07-30 01:34:59 UTC  

all rays that aren't from an infinite sun and parallel, are divergent

2019-07-30 01:35:40 UTC  

also i couldd see your point that, if you can say they're roughly parallel

2019-07-30 01:35:48 UTC  

then you could say their divergence could be roughly unaffected at one point

2019-07-30 01:35:55 UTC  

that's fine, until the fact that the wells are separated

2019-07-30 01:36:04 UTC  

so it's different portions of atmosphere, each which can refract differently

2019-07-30 01:36:09 UTC  

so the result is still unpredictable

2019-07-30 01:36:35 UTC  

yeah, that link is pretending that the sun's rays are parallel

2019-07-30 01:36:44 UTC  

like, you can see from his diagrams that they aren't

2019-07-30 01:36:53 UTC  

but that, you know, close enough

2019-07-30 01:37:55 UTC  

but ye if we're being honest about the physics

2019-07-30 01:38:03 UTC  

the issue is that the rays will travel through 2 different parts of the atmosphere

2019-07-30 01:38:21 UTC  

so parallel or not, they'll get refracted differently just bc it's 2 separate bits of atmosphere

2019-07-30 01:38:39 UTC  

and that can affect divergence and everything else and put it all out of whack

2019-07-30 01:39:08 UTC  

i.e. in terms of the well, light above one well gets bent at another angle than at the other one. and experiment broken

2019-07-30 01:40:14 UTC  

ye eratosthenes was a good start, but now modern science and technology provide better and more accurate experiments to prove the earth is round

2019-07-30 01:40:22 UTC  

it's because of these points we don't use sticks to prove the earth is round

2019-07-30 01:40:51 UTC  

yeahh that makes sense

2019-07-30 01:41:03 UTC  

but the modern proofs have become so inaccessible

2019-07-30 01:41:17 UTC  

that it's actually possible to question if they're legitimate

2019-07-30 01:41:43 UTC  

butyeah we can agree on the sticks at least

2019-07-30 01:55:36 UTC  

why is it inaccessible

2019-07-30 01:57:16 UTC  
2019-07-30 02:30:09 UTC  

@Alexandre like, cavendish is the main one

2019-07-30 02:30:25 UTC  

so, we're supposed to be able to see two iron balls attract

2019-07-30 02:30:51 UTC  

except then nope...gravity's too weak, you have to do it in a restricted setting in a university or govt lab

2019-07-30 02:38:16 UTC  

What about foccault's pendulum

2019-07-30 02:40:17 UTC  

The Earth is not round or flat, it's a cube

2019-07-30 03:02:28 UTC  

@GreenPixel it's an interesting approach but funnily enough i've heard the same thing about that

2019-07-30 03:03:19 UTC  

from globe earthers at least, that it's too small and sensitive to friction to carry out

2019-07-30 03:03:58 UTC  

i feel like things along these lines are worth testing though

2019-07-30 03:18:24 UTC  

Its definitely hard to achieve on one's own, but it is much more publicly accessible and visible that cavendish I think

2019-07-30 03:18:46 UTC  

There are several large ones around the world that are open to visitors

2019-07-30 03:18:59 UTC  

Although there's always the motor argument

2019-07-30 03:56:16 UTC  

it does feel more approachable. for looking for/disproving the earth's rotation i feel like something similar could work