Message from @negatic

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2019-10-11 17:54:58 UTC  

can u honestly belief right now santa is real?

2019-10-11 17:55:13 UTC  

turn on a switch and ur convinced santa is real?

2019-10-11 17:55:16 UTC  

then u cant choose it

2019-10-11 17:55:17 UTC  

can u

2019-10-11 17:55:28 UTC  

same for ge and fe

2019-10-11 17:55:53 UTC  

u see stuff and at some point ur brain basically says ok i seen so much evidence for this side that i believe this now

2019-10-11 17:56:08 UTC  

u can choose what evidence u seek tho

2019-10-11 17:56:26 UTC  

exactly

2019-10-11 17:56:39 UTC  

but u cant beliefe it without the evidence

2019-10-11 17:56:46 UTC  

so u cant choose it freely

2019-10-11 17:56:51 UTC  

correct

2019-10-11 17:57:02 UTC  

u can also be convinced of things for good or bad reasons

2019-10-11 17:57:34 UTC  

yea

2019-10-11 17:57:40 UTC  

yea

2019-10-11 17:57:50 UTC  

u can choose what u look into

2019-10-11 17:57:58 UTC  

and what u look into influences ur beliefs correct

2019-10-11 17:58:21 UTC  

but also what u look into also depends on interests and already held convictions

2019-10-11 17:59:34 UTC  

but if u beliefe that homeopathie works from personal experience (placebo effect) then u can be convinced there is something wrong with medicine and u would be convinced for bad reasons which have to be pointed out to u

2019-10-11 17:59:42 UTC  

also u need to be clever enough to really understand it

2019-10-11 17:59:57 UTC  

not necessary

2019-10-11 18:00:17 UTC  

we tend to give credence to what we read first but it also depends on already held beliefs

2019-10-11 18:00:30 UTC  

if u already know a lot of science the books have different impact on u

2019-10-11 18:01:06 UTC  

(parents + religion) is a good example

2019-10-11 18:01:23 UTC  

at that point its basically ur parents who decide for u tho

2019-10-11 18:01:31 UTC  

or school ciriculum/teacher

2019-10-11 18:02:02 UTC  

anyway im somewhat interested in fe for this reason of differing beliefs

2019-10-11 18:02:11 UTC  

its quite eye opening

2019-10-11 18:02:27 UTC  

no

2019-10-11 18:02:56 UTC  

but i seariously tryed to think like fe in point of how do i know this if i discard second hand knowledge

2019-10-11 18:03:06 UTC  

and if ur at that point i can understand there pov

2019-10-11 18:03:22 UTC  

its not easy to find an experiment everone can do that shows this clearly

2019-10-11 18:03:33 UTC  

2019-10-11 18:03:42 UTC  

and then u got plenty of strawman arguments

2019-10-11 18:03:59 UTC  

yes?

2019-10-11 18:04:51 UTC  

i dont think so

2019-10-11 18:05:05 UTC  

i asked some about space x and if they manage

2019-10-11 18:05:09 UTC  

basically

2019-10-11 18:05:20 UTC  

if u have 50000€ u can know fe is false/true for fact

2019-10-11 18:05:35 UTC  

just travel to south pole when sun is supposed to shine 24/7

2019-10-11 18:05:38 UTC  

and if sun does

2019-10-11 18:05:43 UTC  

fe has a problem