Nor an explanation of how those liquids would stay suspended in the air

Basically "I believe X" and "I'm not going to address the problems with my positon"

The mesopause is the coldest part of the atmosphere and it’s still well above the boiling point of those gases

I think most people who believe in ‘waters above’ think that it’s above the firmament

That's fine. So what's the observation that leads to that hypothesis, I'd ask

Or the one that leads to the hypothesis of a firmament existing

Idk

You can only get to those hypotheses biblically. And that is NOT a valid launching point in science

True

And then even if you'd like to proceed with the scientific method, more power to you. But how would you test the accuracy of these claims?

There's just no evidence

And if God gave us a rational and scientific brain that cannot be utilized to discover him, that's some sick joke

Even if I believed in a god, I wouldn't believe in a god like that

In my later years of being a Christian, I believed that God’s existence was unfalsifiable, but that we were just supposed to have faith, and use science for everything else.

Yeah I call that compartmentalizing

If it doesn't cause someone to deny science I'm not that concerned about it

But it sometimes does

hello fellow flatties

Well, you can't really prove or disprove the existence of a deity through science, it's why there's a part of philosophy that deals with metaphysics, the word literally means "the thing after physics". But having faith in a god shouldn't prevent you from using your brain and exploring the world around you.
I believe most FE people here are Christians so I will refer to the Christian Bible. In Matthew 25:14-30, The parable of the Talents, the master gets angry at the servant who buried his talent in the ground. God doesn't want humans to just be lazy and do nothing, he wants them to use the talents he gave them to better themselves. By extension, using science in order to explore and explain his creation is part of what he wants from humans.
It's pretty sad to see conspiracy theorists hide behind their bible to justify absolutely ridiculous things. God gave you a massive universe to marvel in and you sit in your basement and believe that the government is trying to dupe you into thinking the earth is a globe and that climate change is a hoax. This only shows they are lazy and misunderstand the message of the bible.

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Questioning what you've learned and doing experiments on your own is great, but you still need to apply the scientific method. So far, every experiment that supposedly proves that the earth is flat always had a flaw in the approach, but instead of accepting this, FE just turn a blind eye and continue to spread their ignorance and claiming that they are doing the work of God. The bible is mainly comprised of parables, it was never meant to be used as a scientific reference. If it were meant to be a scientific book, there would be experiments, measurements, equations and data.

With all the proof about a globe, there's no real reason to believe the earth is flat. Anyone who says so is either the product of a failed education system or someone who is trying to take advantage of others. And what baffles me is how many books does one need to understand "be nice to others". This verse pretty much sums it up: "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." John 13:34

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hello fellow flattys

Welcome to the Ice Wall!

One thing i don't understand is why is it so important for the earth to be flat, i don't see why ? And you just have to look at a boat leaving the horizon to see that it's round.

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hello flat earthers

Welcome to the Ice Wall!

i have a question for y'all

how does the flat earth explain time zones?

like how is it night time in Australia but day time in England?

and what about seasons?

if the earth was flat, how can different parts of the world experience seasons and time differently?

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Can we make this server for trusted people only? Too many globe heads trying to debate when this server is to inform new people about flat earth model