Religion should be abolished.

social democracy leads to the same thing as liberal democracies. just they have healthcare instead

until they dont

because of reactionaries

I love how you use an organization that measures "happiness" but it really cant be measured

the Native Americans were happy before Spain and Britian Came and ate their asses

@Jakob yeah but even that is better, harm reduction and slight improvements are better than none until we can reach the ideal state

yeah. my problem is people say its "socialism"

Yeah they are rarted tho

> I love how you use an organization that measures "happiness" but it really cant be measured
@anti simp It's subjective, so the more answers you get the more diverse your selection module was....Meaning something that makes a random mass happy is most likely good for the collective.

GG @NumberOneSilver, you just advanced to level 17!

`Religion is toxic and a cancer to the human race`

Let's abolish it

Embrace science and fact

yeah i hate religion too but you dont win over supports that way tbh

I'll gladly debate religion and use their pointless fallacies against them...

yeah that really doesnt work either

Most men of religion act like they love the world, but in actuality, they turn their nose up at it.

the people would take it as you calling them dumb and naive which you kinda are and then theyll be less open to your ideas

as living conditions get better people become less religious

they dont feel the need to be religious because they dont need to pray for things

> yeah that really doesnt work either
@Jakob If I can't convert them, I'll at least make their ideas out to be as foolish as the man who spoke them, converting the uneducated collective that listened in

goodluck with that. most people under our society would take great offense to that

Let them. They are fools, I am tired of them trying to make a fool out of my philosophy and what I believe in, even though it's merely fact and embracing one's carnal desires and self interest.

r/iamverysmart

anyway, religion is based

they are fools

but you dont win over people by telling them that

refute aquinas' arguments then get back to me

@NumberOneSilver

who is aquinas?

ill look into it

it's his five ways

Yeah, I'm looking at them now

I don't see how any of his conclusions actually led to god.

The generic argument behind all five arguments
a. Some dependent beings exist.
b. All dependent beings and their characteristics must have a cause for their
dependent existence.
c. An infinite regress of existentially dependent causes is impossible.
d. Therefore, there must be a first uncaused Cause of the existence of every
dependent being and its characteristics.
e. This independent Being is identical with the I AM of Holy Scripture.

Yes but he's jumping to the conclusion of a false cause.

With god as his assumed product

well no, he's just saying that god is the only explanation because he is the uncaused cause that's necessary

it sounds foolish

i mean it could be things other than god; it doesn't necessarily lead you to islam or christianity