I didn't understand the word "slippery" but i looked it into the dictionary

I would go a step further and say that hierarchy is ingrained in our biology like gravity is ingrained in our biology... it’s ingrained in our biology because it’s ingrained in our Universe.

We don’t “behave” like there’s hierarchy... our very existence is embedded in hierarchy

agreed

placed by the creator

The mode of our existence is determined by hierarchy, it’s not like we “developed” it

this is great stuff

@Faith2Faith you can prove that Morality exists due to God, if you manage to refer to God in an original manner. And that definition must be agreed upon. Also you can prove the contrary. The issue is weather people "want" to accept it.

Yes hierarchy is ingrained as well as anarchy.

It depends on where we want to look.

Challenge for anyone here. Define: “is”

Because I believe the relationship between “is” and its definition ... is ... a way to start thinking about Truth, Knowledge and God.

Yes. If one manages to demonstrate that existence in itself is moral, than you can prove everything you want

But in order to prove that, he/she needs at least 1 postulate to be agreed upon with the other person

Like in all human knowledge, you need at least 1 postulate.

This is because you can't prove the validity of one statement using the same set that statement is part of.

You could write 1000 books on the nature of the word existence

Imagine: it is defined using the particle "ex" - in latin meaning exterior, outside of being or object" + prefix "i" which means beyond + stance, coming from "stantia" whose true meaning cannot be conveyd in English language. From my language (Romanian) which is very close to ancient latin means something like: "spring that holds the being anchored in all four cardinal points"

So existence = a being which is anchored like a spring in all 4 cardinal points, while being beyond the outside of the outside. (thus inside?! - having double outsides out of each other)

Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

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Mind is not encourage to explore if you shut it down by saying: It's nothing.

Nothing is factually innacurate because it does not ex-ist. Our known Universe has a minimum energy level at the quantum level. Quantum void

Nothing does not exist.

1 kilograme of lead is just as ambiguous as God. Knowing the exact position and energy levels of the electrons in that lead is impossible to compute. It's a prejudice that makes us believe that "God" is more ambiguous than a piece of wood

So one may argue that God is more real than a piece of lead, because defining it, you don't run over the constraints you encounter when calculating electron orbitals, masses and energies in that lead

If God dissapeared tomorrow, he would take you with him

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One may worship a cow and still be atheist 😄

Or he may worship the same cow and be Gnostic and Agnostic

If laws of physics disappeared tomorrow, they would take you with him.

Them*

Yea

Why add the ‘god’ ?

That’s the question

Because the person on voice said God what if god disappeared tomorow

Yea and dogbref tried to explain that without adding that additional layer of ‘god’ for no good reason (doesn’t help explain anything more or in any way) ... it all still works

"No good reason" ...

Better to add God than add nothing, eh ?

I just showed up. why do we need to know something to be true?

I defined what no good reason means

You can’t pretend that I didn’t 🙂