Lol centrism! Hmm ok 🙂

Centrism is harder to obtain. In left or right you can have at least one foot entranched in that specific ideology.

The argument that free trade is universally good for progress of all nations is fake.

Empires have risen on protectionist policy and died on free trade

From the Walker tariffs to the Trump era, protectionism served USA well.

And Friedman knew it.

Science and Religion work well together 😛

As long as we stick to what Einstein said: Science and Religion should respect each other's field of competence.

Centrism is a silly framing. I think it’s a way to remain ambiguous. Aaron Burr would be considered a centrist, and I don’t trust it; it’s not actually “center” it’s “slippery”

Or as we say in Orthodox Christianity: "Since every answer gives birth to 7 more questions, there is plenty of room for God. Therefore, the space for God is deemed to increase."

Also, the center tends to move in the direction of whichever tribe is winning. They have a foot in each, so it only makes sense

By being slippery you mean dynamic or ?

Morality exists due to God

Anyone extreme could claim “centrism” as well.

For instance, if you believe in one god and one truth, you can claim “center” of something that might look like a horseshoe, where the godless are to the left and the false gods are on the right.

It’s a convenient term, like “balanced” “consent” and “cohesion”

> Morality exists due to God
@Faith2Faith defend that in the voice chat

@Yussuki ₪ I mean unanchored. Able to be swayed by the flaws of man

Oh i see i understand now thanks

I didn't understand the word "slippery" but i looked it into the dictionary

I would go a step further and say that hierarchy is ingrained in our biology like gravity is ingrained in our biology... it’s ingrained in our biology because it’s ingrained in our Universe.

We don’t “behave” like there’s hierarchy... our very existence is embedded in hierarchy

agreed

placed by the creator

The mode of our existence is determined by hierarchy, it’s not like we “developed” it

this is great stuff

@Faith2Faith you can prove that Morality exists due to God, if you manage to refer to God in an original manner. And that definition must be agreed upon. Also you can prove the contrary. The issue is weather people "want" to accept it.

Yes hierarchy is ingrained as well as anarchy.

It depends on where we want to look.

Challenge for anyone here. Define: “is”

Because I believe the relationship between “is” and its definition ... is ... a way to start thinking about Truth, Knowledge and God.

Yes. If one manages to demonstrate that existence in itself is moral, than you can prove everything you want

But in order to prove that, he/she needs at least 1 postulate to be agreed upon with the other person

Like in all human knowledge, you need at least 1 postulate.

This is because you can't prove the validity of one statement using the same set that statement is part of.

You could write 1000 books on the nature of the word existence

Imagine: it is defined using the particle "ex" - in latin meaning exterior, outside of being or object" + prefix "i" which means beyond + stance, coming from "stantia" whose true meaning cannot be conveyd in English language. From my language (Romanian) which is very close to ancient latin means something like: "spring that holds the being anchored in all four cardinal points"

So existence = a being which is anchored like a spring in all 4 cardinal points, while being beyond the outside of the outside. (thus inside?! - having double outsides out of each other)

Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

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You lose information and imagination. You lose yourself

Mind is not encourage to explore if you shut it down by saying: It's nothing.

Nothing is factually innacurate because it does not ex-ist. Our known Universe has a minimum energy level at the quantum level. Quantum void

Nothing does not exist.

1 kilograme of lead is just as ambiguous as God. Knowing the exact position and energy levels of the electrons in that lead is impossible to compute. It's a prejudice that makes us believe that "God" is more ambiguous than a piece of wood