It is immoral. We don’t typically subsidize people’s gambling habits.

Lying is immoral. We penalize it; it’s called fraud.

what’s your standard of immoral?

What’s yours?

is it immoral to kill a person?

It’s immoral to murder. It’s moral to defend life. Sometimes attackers die when life is defended.

it ends in cultural relativism always that’s why I avoid these lines

in culture X, honor killings are a thing

Yea so slippery people believe that for sure

blah blah blah

But look, we can actually disagree on what’s moral and not if we don’t force other people to pay for the consequences of our own mistakes

Isn’t that lovely?

Come to the voice chat

how do we get people to stop paying for the decisions other people make?

because that’s still a thing

We don’t force them to

the government does

At the vet waiting room and lots of noise

Just leaving some thoughts here

They can if they want, and sometimes they’ll have to... we just don’t force them, especially in a way that relieves the mistake maker of all of the responsibility

Maybe you guys respond

Everyone wants total forgiveness

Imagine forcing me to pay for your murder

That would be nuts, but we do that all the time in smaller ways

well your tax money goes to support prisons

I am forced to pay for people’s bad drug habits, bad sexual habits etc

Yes and at least a prisoner is also paying

I’m paying for their separation from society

They’re paying for their crime with imprisonment

but you’re forced to pay it’s not optional

that’s what I’m getting at

tax money is also used to fund wars

pointless ones sometimes

Tax is slavery, let’s cut to the chase. 😂

lmao

boom

@Ozymandias I Don’t understand what your position is. Yes we pay for people to get punished so what do you propose we do? Taxes is one of the mechanisms of which a state can function. Can you elaborate on your position?

Tax is not slavery if you argue that consenting citizens choose to participate at the social play.

Hey Dre and Mec

sup

so what’s everyone’s background here? We got the Christian computer programmer. The army brat/college undergrad. Who else?