Message from @Yussuki ₪
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Shaming me worsen your situation. There have been 1763 recorded wars in history. You are not able to produce 1 single war between 2 democracies.
This is the 9th time you try to shame me. You are gealous cause I debunked your false arguments 😄
There have been 1763 recorded wars in history. You are not able to produce 1 single war between 2 democracies.
Ok ok ok. We get it man, you have that copy pasted. I gave you an example and you haven't done a very good job of explaining why it's not
@Yussuki ₪ Ecuador war vs Peru.
Ecuador 1995 and Peru 1995 were not 2 Democracies. They failed the minimal democratic criteria: Rule of Law, Power Separation, etc..above
You have yet to explain to me why Ecuador or Peumru weren't a democracies if they had separation of powers, elected representatives, etc
This is a better discussion to further the discussion.
Because Separation of Power / Rule of Law / VOTE / Antidiscrimination / Equality in law are the minimal requirements
Zino - who says these are the minimum requirements? Just asking
I could add more. Or take out one.
Not me. Transparency International / and the inventors of Democracy
HUMAN RIGHTS !!!
Ok - I’d like to see a document from transparency international that defines these as the minimum requirements for democracy?
Or ‘inventors of democracy’ whoever they are.
Peru's President pardoned convicted criminal abuse criminals. war criminals..
@Yussuki ₪ so whatever country violates human rights , they are not democracies?
I’m genuinely asking. And I’ll tell you why. Any theoretical ideas of governemnet or otherwise, they all seem to be open to redefine to prove any point.
@Yussuki ₪ stop making stuff up and actually give me something you believe in
I want us to be clear so the discussion can move forward.
@Légionnaire Étranger . You know what's funny? Even if you would be right (absurd as it seems) from 1700+ wars since the beginning of time..you can produce only 1 war between 2 democracies. (Ofc its not true, but lets just say you right, wouldnt you find it true that: "Democracies dont wage war against each other?") --- this was the initial discussion
Ok - so I quickly skimmed through it. Even by the articles own admission - it is easier to define what is not democratic than what is democracy.
Secondly
It talks about ideas of ‘more democratic’ and ‘less democratic’ so does not draw a line saying the 4 -5 things you stated as minimum requirements
No consensus exists on how to define democracy, but legal equality, political freedom and rule of law have been identified as important characteristics. These principles are reflected in all eligible citizens being equal before the law and having equal access to legislative processes. = wikipedia
The parameters you seem to be proposing as minimum requirements of democracy seem to be on the ‘more democratic’ side of things.
But definitely not minimum requirements
@Yussuki ₪ "no consensus exists on how to define democracy"
Also @Yussuki ₪ "that's not a democracy!"
Lol this guy is pretty funny
You need to have a Representative Parliament to be able to have a Democracy.
Well - you pointed to this article when I asked - so saying ‘ no consensus exists on how to define democracy’ ... you could’ve said that without making the claim that there are these set in stone minimum requirements 🙂
@Légionnaire Étranger you tripped on the first 2 rows. read more
And we would have agreed
> @Légionnaire Étranger . You know what's funny? Even if you would be right (absurd as it seems) from 1700+ wars since the beginning of time..you can produce only 1 war between 2 democracies. (Ofc its not true, but lets just say you right, wouldnt you find it true that: "Democracies dont wage war against each other?") --- this was the initial discussion
@Yussuki ₪
I'm glad you conceded. Fi ally some honesty.
No, I was making an argument. I debunked you 8 times.
@Yussuki ₪ funny man 😄
Stop with personal attack’s
"absurd it seems" -- you do cherry picking
Attacks*
you guys are big clowns
He mare me pathetic and dishonest 9+ times.