HUMAN RIGHTS !!!

Ok - I’d like to see a document from transparency international that defines these as the minimum requirements for democracy?

Or ‘inventors of democracy’ whoever they are.

Peru's President pardoned convicted criminal abuse criminals. war criminals..

@Yussuki ₪ so whatever country violates human rights , they are not democracies?

I’m genuinely asking. And I’ll tell you why. Any theoretical ideas of governemnet or otherwise, they all seem to be open to redefine to prove any point.

@Yussuki ₪ stop making stuff up and actually give me something you believe in

I want us to be clear so the discussion can move forward.

https://www.coe.int/en/web/compass/democracy

@Légionnaire Étranger . You know what's funny? Even if you would be right (absurd as it seems) from 1700+ wars since the beginning of time..you can produce only 1 war between 2 democracies. (Ofc its not true, but lets just say you right, wouldnt you find it true that: "Democracies dont wage war against each other?") --- this was the initial discussion

Ok - so I quickly skimmed through it. Even by the articles own admission - it is easier to define what is not democratic than what is democracy.

Secondly

It talks about ideas of ‘more democratic’ and ‘less democratic’ so does not draw a line saying the 4 -5 things you stated as minimum requirements

No consensus exists on how to define democracy, but legal equality, political freedom and rule of law have been identified as important characteristics. These principles are reflected in all eligible citizens being equal before the law and having equal access to legislative processes. = wikipedia

The parameters you seem to be proposing as minimum requirements of democracy seem to be on the ‘more democratic’ side of things.

But definitely not minimum requirements

@Yussuki ₪ "no consensus exists on how to define democracy"

Also @Yussuki ₪ "that's not a democracy!"

Lol this guy is pretty funny

You need to have a Representative Parliament to be able to have a Democracy.

Well - you pointed to this article when I asked - so saying ‘ no consensus exists on how to define democracy’ ... you could’ve said that without making the claim that there are these set in stone minimum requirements 🙂

@Légionnaire Étranger you tripped on the first 2 rows. read more

And we would have agreed

> @Légionnaire Étranger . You know what's funny? Even if you would be right (absurd as it seems) from 1700+ wars since the beginning of time..you can produce only 1 war between 2 democracies. (Ofc its not true, but lets just say you right, wouldnt you find it true that: "Democracies dont wage war against each other?") --- this was the initial discussion
@Yussuki ₪
I'm glad you conceded. Fi ally some honesty.

No, I was making an argument. I debunked you 8 times.

@Yussuki ₪ funny man 😄

Stop with personal attack’s

"absurd it seems" -- you do cherry picking

Attacks*

you guys are big clowns

He mare me pathetic and dishonest 9+ times.

@Yussuki ₪ ecuador had a representative parliament. > You need to have a Representative Parliament to be able to have a Democracy.
@Yussuki ₪

it's funny

> You need to have a Representative Parliament to be able to have a Democracy.
@Yussuki ₪ so you admit that my example is valid?

how about instead of this, you speak with your voice, not the speed of your fingers

No, Ecuaodor was not a Democracy in 1995. Having a Parliament doesnt make you a Democracy. China also has a Parliament in the form of the National Assembly

get in the voice chat

You need to have multiple criteria to establish a Democracy.

> No, Ecuaodor was not a Democracy in 1995. Having a Parliament doesnt make you a Democracy. China also has a Parliament in the form of the National Assembly

@Yussuki ₪ > You need to have a Representative Parliament to be able to have a Democracy.
@Yussuki ₪

Parliament is just one criteria

Zino - I’ll give you an analogy to explain the problem I’m having with your argument on defining it the way you wish to that makes your case —— Cases of sexual harassment have grown on average in the last 10 years .... well if you change the definition to include more actions as sexual harassment of course they are.

Uganda has Parliament. Is Uganda Democratic?

Can we agree that it's necessary to have more criteria to consider a State as being Democratic ?