Catching up on chat, why does Stone still address me? We aren’t on speaking terms.

Hey Zino, we should do a dialogue you and me. I think 2 person chats with an audience can be really interesting, and they actually GO somewhere

Sure

Add me on discord as a friend. Actually, anyone here who enjoys discussing God and won’t go stiff as a board every time the concept of God is mentioned, should add me.

I have you as friend, my friend already 😛

Ok awesome

I’m new to discord, I don’t use it much, the UI confuses me compared to slack

I enjoy conversations with @JPMcGlone until it becomes about God because I'm uninterested in that subject

I know a lot about it. I set up a 11k members community in my country also.

I know a lot about Discord. I can help you guys

*cough* echo chamber

I'm a libertarian, piecefull, non harming freedom

And JP - let me surprise you. I’m a theist 😎

God is not the problem.

Everytime god comes up here, it’s cut off without exploration, so... *cough* echo chamber

@Malachi But, when you grow alot of apples, the community surives

Because growing apples are hard

Nope . You get to speak it , a LOOoOoT actually... so no echo chamber.

so is most thing thats worth while

Like I said earlier, the world is better because if people like Elon musk

Im gonna focus on this discussion right now. It’s a good one. Would encourage everyone including JP to join and give their views.

I personally thinks that resources for smart people is in everyones best interest

I can’t actually give my view if it involves God though

@Malachi that sounds like a more sophisticated version of ‘if society didn’t buy your product, you wouldn’t be rich’

The counter is ‘ then why didn’t you choose to sell whatever I’m selling... clearly there is something unique about this that only I can bring to the table’

Ideas are not worth shit!

JP - I think we’ve heard it multiple times, read it multiple times. In fact most of the time this is the topic you talk about. If you still don’t feel like you’ve been given due time - I can even get behind that while disagreeing, but you just start calling people names. Not just in a burst of emotion on the chat - which is also wrong- but even in your written speech where one has more time think beffore pressing enter. How much more ‘understanding’ do you want before moving from your position a bit?

so true

The issue with the God / Skepticism dilemma is that one allows for the other, but not the other way around. Usually when that happens, the "one that allows for the other" is "too loose" or "too slippery" and I get that's how "God" is seen by the skeptic, but ironically, there is much more "slipperiness" in the skeptic position than in the God one (especially when it comes to morality) -- yet Skepticism doesn't allow for God.

God and sketpicism ought not be at odds. Instead, it's about scope.

God is the largest scope and skepticism captures a small part of what's God's.

But the skeptic doesn't see that. The skeptic sees only what he can observe and measure up close, and doesn't care that ALL of that is made possible by that which he cannot observe and measure.

As a Christian, however, I think skepticism is awesome... for a certain *category* of truths.

@Malachi The taxes collected are way more than the taxes he paid...

So, in this chat, we can never quite explore God because the skepticism whirlpool of a blackhole makes sure we can't.

We should have "God" days. Maybe Sundays?

No

Conversations frequently go there.

I won't ration God

Yes, and conversations ALWAYS go to skepticism

You know JP - how you say and said to Travis today ‘ I understand because I used to think the way you are now’ (to that effect) .... I used to think like that (to your last message) so please understand you are not presenting a completely unique viewpoint and we understand what you’re saying.

That's this server

Well sometimes we get tires of your tirades and your accusations of tirades

Right, my point exactly.

But we also have daily topics