Message from @JPMcGlone

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2020-09-29 23:53:30 UTC  

so true

2020-09-29 23:53:51 UTC  

The issue with the God / Skepticism dilemma is that one allows for the other, but not the other way around. Usually when that happens, the "one that allows for the other" is "too loose" or "too slippery" and I get that's how "God" is seen by the skeptic, but ironically, there is much more "slipperiness" in the skeptic position than in the God one (especially when it comes to morality) -- yet Skepticism doesn't allow for God.

God and sketpicism ought not be at odds. Instead, it's about scope.

God is the largest scope and skepticism captures a small part of what's God's.

But the skeptic doesn't see that. The skeptic sees only what he can observe and measure up close, and doesn't care that ALL of that is made possible by that which he cannot observe and measure.

As a Christian, however, I think skepticism is awesome... for a certain *category* of truths.

2020-09-29 23:54:27 UTC  

@Malachi The taxes collected are way more than the taxes he paid...

2020-09-29 23:54:28 UTC  

So, in this chat, we can never quite explore God because the skepticism whirlpool of a blackhole makes sure we can't.

2020-09-29 23:54:50 UTC  

We should have "God" days. Maybe Sundays?

2020-09-29 23:55:00 UTC  

No

2020-09-29 23:55:00 UTC  

Conversations frequently go there.

2020-09-29 23:55:03 UTC  

I won't ration God

2020-09-29 23:55:13 UTC  

Yes, and conversations ALWAYS go to skepticism

2020-09-29 23:55:19 UTC  

You know JP - how you say and said to Travis today ‘ I understand because I used to think the way you are now’ (to that effect) .... I used to think like that (to your last message) so please understand you are not presenting a completely unique viewpoint and we understand what you’re saying.

2020-09-29 23:55:20 UTC  

That's this server

2020-09-29 23:55:30 UTC  

Well sometimes we get tires of your tirades and your accusations of tirades

2020-09-29 23:55:31 UTC  

Right, my point exactly.

2020-09-29 23:55:32 UTC  

But we also have daily topics

2020-09-29 23:55:46 UTC  

And since God comes up so regularly we could give it a day every week

2020-09-29 23:55:47 UTC  
2020-09-29 23:55:53 UTC  

Yes, and those topics, to Pang, all exist on top of skepticism. To the Christians, God.

2020-09-29 23:56:18 UTC  

Anyway, gotta run. Christian folk and people who don't laugh and shut down when God is mentioned, add me.

2020-09-29 23:56:19 UTC  

🤣

2020-09-29 23:56:20 UTC  

So this is not church - agreed.

2020-09-29 23:56:28 UTC  

It's the church of skepticism apparently.

2020-09-29 23:56:29 UTC  

You go for 6 minutes at a time

2020-09-29 23:56:39 UTC  

Then call people autistic when they'd like to talk

2020-09-29 23:56:51 UTC  

Or assholes

2020-09-29 23:56:56 UTC  

Nope. It’s not a church - and you just cemented a victim card with what you said. Well done.

2020-09-29 23:56:58 UTC  

(I only call them autistic when they take my metaphors literally and then interrupt me 100 times while I try to explain)

2020-09-29 23:57:08 UTC  

Or whatever "Not an ad-hom" you want to use

2020-09-29 23:57:12 UTC  

I'm not a victim at all, please don't call me that

2020-09-29 23:57:26 UTC  

Later!

2020-09-29 23:57:36 UTC  

Yes JP - and if you don’t see anything wrong with that - you’re not a very good Christian either (again as someone who used to think that way)

2020-09-29 23:58:07 UTC  

> I'm not a victim at all, please don't call me that
@JPMcGlone I am saying you are not. You are insisting you are

2020-09-29 23:58:14 UTC  

The soviet was a shit show

2020-09-29 23:58:31 UTC  

Communism in the soviet is a horror story

2020-09-29 23:58:38 UTC  
2020-09-29 23:58:53 UTC  
2020-09-29 23:58:58 UTC  

STUNNER! lol

2020-09-29 23:59:34 UTC  

Lol. And that’s the bottom line cuz @StoneCold316 said so!

2020-09-29 23:59:39 UTC  

hahaha

2020-09-29 23:59:55 UTC  

@Malachi Norwegian here

2020-09-29 23:59:59 UTC  

Good showing. JPM wants to resist skepticism