@ola not bad, but ya gotta dial up the scandal dial 😉

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It's bad faith trolling to repeatedly prod for answers you've already been told aren't possible with the ungrounded hypotheticals being used to troll.

This aged well.
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1311895075610337286

Loki, my hypothetical isn’t possible? Are you kidding me? @m.miller I’ve been nothing but kind to this man in this back and forth, and he’s called me a half witted jerk, accused me of coming at him in bad faith and lies about the fact that my question is some sort of impossible hypothetical.

Nobody calling for his removal. This is what I’m talking about, M. Laughable.

Hey @ola Trump responded more like a kind human being to the news of RBG’s death than you did to the news of him testing positive for COVID.

But you wouldn’t know that because in your own words: “Out of respect for her, I didn’t listen to his comment.”

The hatred boiling up in the hearts of the left is really sad. I hope he recovers well! And I’m sure he will.

Remember, they are tested ROUTINELY. They likely test positive before any symptoms occur.

@Katelyn he literally never said coronavirus is a liberal hoax. He said much of the news around coronavirus is a hoax, and it is. He said a lot of the news around how he’s dealt with coronavirus is a hoax, and it is.

And you’re just proving his point.

Let’s hope the news around coronavirus is a hoax then. 🤞

> Let’s hope the news around coronavirus is a hoax then. 🤞
@StoneCold316

I live in a very low SARS-Cov-II rate area, but that's still non-zero.

My brother lives in an area a couple hours outside NYC, and says "Everyone knows someone who's died."

A niece far away ended up by a coincidence of circumstances managing an elder care facility that was converted to a Covid ward. That's only marginally safer than direct patient staff she tries to keep healthy.

Trump never said anything like COVID doesn’t exist.

When Trump shut down the borders with China, Democrats were literally saying it was overkill and xenophobic.

It all started there. Then Democrats became the party of “shut it down” MORE than Trump and their tune changed.

This country is so divided

I really hope we don’t find out that his “test positive” is some sort of trick to get him off the campaign trail!

Is it beneath Trump’s enemies to pull that off? The people who are yelling that they’ll “stop at nothing” to make sure he doesn’t win the election?

If, hypothetically, we found that out, and nobody is tried for treason, then we lose this country because there is nothing (short of an assassination) that would be considered treasonous anymore.

But this is hypothetical.

Sadly, I wouldn’t be totally surprised

For the BLM bigots, and microaggression scammers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM

@m.miller more of it.

Careful Loki, they’re gonna ban you and unban you too.

Actually no they won’t, you have the “right views”. Stupid mob lol

> Hey @ola Trump responded more like a kind human being to the news of RBG’s death than you did to the news of him testing positive for COVID.
>
> But you wouldn’t know that because in your own words: “Out of respect for her, I didn’t listen to his comment.”
>
> The hatred boiling up in the hearts of the left is really sad. I hope he recovers well! And I’m sure he will.
>
> Remember, they are tested ROUTINELY. They likely test positive before any symptoms occur.
@JPMcGlone


I'm not required to be polite about him. I wish people would understand that.

Nevertheless, I've been fairly polite. Note the word "sadly" and the consideration I've given to his good chances of being fine.

As for "hatred" and "left" -- irrelevant.

> @Katelyn he literally never said coronavirus is a liberal hoax. He said much of the news around coronavirus is a hoax, and it is. He said a lot of the news around how he’s dealt with coronavirus is a hoax, and it is.
>
> And you’re just proving his point.
@JPMcGlone Sure, you're right that he was saying about the media coverage of it, not coronavirus itself. But the implication was that the media is lying or exaggerating about covid, when they were actually reporting it accurately while he was telling egrious lies downplaying it. This made a lot of his followers not take it seriously, and a considerable chunk of the right wing does (or at least did) believe that the coronavirus was a conspiracy, and he certainly wasn't helping that cause. He has continued to spread misinformation about covid, which has created confusion (especially during the critical early stages). He has created a moronic cultural war about wearing masks, one of the few things on our power to control the spread with extensive evidence for its efficacy even coming from his own administration - he's gone back and forth on masks, but even in that clip of the debate, he's mocking and shaming people for taking precautions when any respectable leader would be encouraging that. He's continued to host large rallies where many of his supporters don't wear masks.

We do need peope to start taking this seriously so that another 100k Americans don't fucking die. Trump supporters are a major source of people flouting mask mandates / social distancing measures and propagating misinformation. I think this is the only thing that *might* change their behavior at this point. I don't wish ill upon him in the sense that I wish we could have achieved people taking it seriously through some other means, but if this is the way it has to be then so be it.

Donald Trump is literally the biggest source of covid misinofrmation: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/evanega-et-al-coronavirus-misinformation-submitted-07-23-20-1/080839ac0c22bca8/full.pdf

NYT is nothing even approaching a reputable source

> NYT is nothing even approaching a reputable source
@Delta

The Grey Lady sure ain't what she used to be, but their Covid coverage has been pretty good, limited mainly by the issues of medicine on hyperdrive doing research, and political tampering at both some states, and Federal, levels. The Federal tampering is exclusively blood on the hands of one and only one malignant narcissist.

A relative used to work for Dr. Fauci developing ELISA tests years ago, and there seems to be good reason to give his ability to deal with leading edge biomed and the politics of funding a functional agency, a lot of credit.

The truth is incredibly few people have died, compared to older pandemics. That's largely due to antibiotics advancing, and most historic deaths not being viral, but secondary infections in already compromised people.

The way humans have overpopulated the planet and done our best to trash ecosystems, maybe it'd be desirable to see a few billion die off? Same with wars, that fail that herd culling function if one or both sides have key forces in remote air conditioned video game play centers.

> Donald Trump is literally the biggest source of covid misinofrmation: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/evanega-et-al-coronavirus-misinformation-submitted-07-23-20-1/080839ac0c22bca8/full.pdf
@Katelyn

Says the NYT

Also you do realize that Trump has experts right. Give me one instance when Trump went against Fauci

> @Katelyn
>
> Says the NYT
Says expert researchers at Cornell University.

> Also you do realize that Trump has experts right. Give me one instance when Trump went against Fauci
@JPMcGlone
Here's an instance: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/11/fauci-trump-coronavirus/

@JPMcGlone in the debate with Biden trump literally argued that masks don’t work when multiple studies have shown that they reduce the rate of infection

There have been so many studies and statements made by medical officials that say that if people wore masks then the infection spread rate would decrease drastically

@JPMcGlone I'm just seeing this, give me a little bit to sort it out.

@LokiV calling someone a halfwit bigoted jerk IS an ad hominem. We don't allow those here. I'll be sending you a DM.

@Katelyn that paper is really damning

> in the debate with Biden trump literally argued that masks don’t work
@kaizen The only section I remember on this was Trump saying "I have a mask right here, (I wear it when I need to)" and refering to Biden's mask as "ridiculous, the biggest mask youve ever seen"

> @kaizen The only section I remember on this was Trump saying "I have a mask right here, (I wear it when I need to)" and refering to Biden's mask as "ridiculous, the biggest mask youve ever seen"
@drenath
Fine, but you have to at least acknowledge that Trump has been extremely inconsistent on masks in spite of the fact that all of the scientific evidence points towards them being an important tool. Literally two weeks ago: "A lot of people say that masks aren't good..." and then describes waiters touching their masks and then touching plates. "A lot of people said don't wear masks." "The concept of masks is good but you're constantly touching it. There's a lot of peopel who don't think masks are good."
See: https://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/trumps-abc-news-town-hall-trump-responds-question-73036468

Those statements are why this was coming up in the debate. Any leader with a basic level of competence would be promoting things that help people stay safe and get covid under control. Instead he chose focus on mocking Biden for wearing a mask - literally the exact opposite of what he should be doing. Now, his own irresponsibility has directly put other people at risk, including, Biden who was near him at the debates even though Trump was aware that he may have been exposed.

Also, there's no evidence for his comments - this notion that touching your face with a mask on is somehow spreading covid. He's literally just making that up.

> you have to at least acknowledge that Trump has been extremely inconsistent on masks
@Katelyn
I don't know why anyone would look to Trump as an authority on mask-wearing anyway, but I've seen evidence in both directions.

@drenath What do you think about the fact that the president of the United States is an untrustworthy source of information on matters about basic health and safety? If you support him, how do you reconcile that?

He's not a doctor. I wouldn't ask Obama about my computer problems.

Doesn’t matter if he isn’t a doctor

But he undeniably has a lot of power and influence - people listen to the things he says, and he's very aware of that and abusing that power. It would be one thing if he just said "Idk, I'm not a doctor. You should listen to Fauchi." But that's not what he's doing. Do you think that this shows good leadership?

It’s his responsibility to not spread misinformation and promote proper health protocol

If your claim is that Trump talks too much and is loose with facts, we're in agreement.

Do you support him?

His influence over the country makes it a responsibility on him to deliver accurate information

I'm not sure what "support" means. I didn't vote for him.

Side question, do you think the left extreme is gonna be able to influence policy if Biden is voted? @Katelyn @drenath