yes, no more mental institutions of debt

Vocational high schools need to be the norm.

Magnet schools 🙂

> Because nobody will vouch for le random black kid
@platonic chain whereas white families have a history of franchising in their area and being in or close to positions of power, inherently giving them an edge over those who don't have strong families. at least that's how it is here

Charter it

Return the universities to the churches, amirite? Let's go medieval.

who cares how it works out, they get the same oppertunity with less the debt

You already see it with STEM schools....locally here in Texas, they have a lottery system and take applicants from their regions, and they do pretty well, but like. The reality in the USA is that this means you have a lot of students boarding away from home.

I don't give a damn, but government cannot run this. Do you get me - not the FED

And family is important

I agree, it will work out. The amount of corruption in University Administration offices cannot go on.

Just moribund bloat

every time you back a stud loan, they raise tuition

institutions of man, not of learning

Yeah, the market has no backstop, it is non-stop ever increasing supply of money to inflate demand.

We have a debt to end

Bring the Jubilee

I appreciate the views and inside information you bring to discussions like these @platonic chain . it's hard for me to see the public school system as anything more than an expensive corrupt indoctrination machine with 0 alternatives.

and most of that is to welfare state. Everything needs to be in trust actual

The public school system is not a monolith. Remember, most public schools have their decisions made by LOCALLY ELECTED BOARDS.

like the MAJORITY of their decisions are on a local scale

Education system isn't wrong or evil, just a good thing corrupted, like so many.

The biggest thing you can do as a conscientious community member is attend school board meetings

I do have some really fantastic Public Schools TBH but I can't saddle and get fucked by your unions anymore, okay?

give them vouchers too

What works best is all I care about

Like you have no idea how much influence 8-10 people on a school board can make.

bring it to the local level, please

I am in a place of massive influence *JUST* because I have contact with the head of the school board, I am on the local CTE board, and am on a board at the local university for promoting STEM education in minority students.

no but i know how damaging 25-30 students per teacher was in my school

STEM is also a corruptive vocational training program as I recall

and please pardon my language.

You will find hungry scammers everywhere. The board I'm a part of isn't a private thing. It's a publicly funded research program that is seeking to find the best intervention efforts to direct students into university programs for engineering, specifically.

Are they democrats?

I do not care, as long as they don't insert woke bullshit.

Republicans don't care about education for the most part

Charter schools and vouchers are proof you are accusing falsely

They'll complain about the education system but when it actually comes down to fixing the problems within the system they just *don't*. Sure they may offer alternatives but most of the time we were just told to sit and spin.

Charter schools and vouchers are a crapshoot. There's as many shitty charter schools as good ones. Hell, every year or so a racially woke charter school ends up getting outed for basically having neglected to teach kids how to read for 8 years of K-8.

At least that's how it was in my state

My hard drive made a time stamp 40 years ago, and here I AM today with evidence (or lack therof "Higher Education") in the ranks of any Federal Government Sponsored Program.