So you understand.

I care more about the members of my country than my race

Yes, that's a shame.

however I don't understand why you would protect an umbrella of 'European' when this group contains significant numbers of people with the same genetic standard in terms of intelligence/temperament as that of Africans

Because they are european.

that seems like rather circular logic

No, it's an axiom.

Like the other guy "I care about my country most" that's an axiom

My assertion is that race is more meaningful.

because of genetics, no?

Than legal territory

Unless they are one and the same

Because of everything I said race is earlier

I don't like dumb people in my race, just like the other guy doesn't like dumb people in his country..... But I hold race higher than country

why is race higher than country?

w/e I don't think we're going to agree anyways since we're operating from different principles

Already covered that

I don't seek agreement

yes I understand that

Race is the first most pre rational group you intrinsically belong to...

I would argue ethnicity has a far stronger basis

Also something I didn't mention, diversity in and of itself is a negative for society

given that the european race has torn themselves apart across ethnic lines

So it's always a negative to have diverse populations in close proximity to each other

not if the benefits of the additional population outweigh the negatives of diversity

So there are many practical benefits for all white Societies

I just asserted the opposite

Whites don't need any other race

Maybe blacks do?

(clearly)

I know I've seen Putnum and friends and the negatives clearly are something that can be easily outweighed by benefits of additional population depending on what your goals are

Yes every race fights among themselves...that's not a "european" thing....we do it better maybe lol

Yes, if your goal is cheap labor, sure

it doesn't need to be exclusive to europeans to be a meaningful sign that ethnicity trumps race

Immigration is not required from outside groups

It's not necessary

Ethnicity is important

It's the next higher order than race....race then ethnicity

Or outer ring of identity

again it depends on what your goals are. Economic growth, increased production, general prosperity-- the inclusion of east asian immigrants has certainly produced more of these things, leaving lower races aside

So it's something like.... Family and race then ethnicity, then like region or territory