You, actually, are trying to ignore it.

okay if your goal is not to select for better traits along the lines of intelligence and temperament then what is it?

Why? Probably conditioning... saw too many star trek movies. Who knows

that doesn't answer my question

I asked if your goal *isn't* to select for better traits along the lines of intelligence and temperament then what is your goal?

Ask me my goal

Ok

The goal is to protect my group, Europeans.

And what we have and what we are

And to make them thrive grow and get better smarter and stronger

why do you want to protect Europeans?

Think of it this way: my race is my nation...it's a simplistic way to say it but should make sense to you

I'm european

What are you?

germanic european

in america

Ok good

So you understand.

I care more about the members of my country than my race

Yes, that's a shame.

however I don't understand why you would protect an umbrella of 'European' when this group contains significant numbers of people with the same genetic standard in terms of intelligence/temperament as that of Africans

Because they are european.

that seems like rather circular logic

No, it's an axiom.

Like the other guy "I care about my country most" that's an axiom

My assertion is that race is more meaningful.

because of genetics, no?

Than legal territory

Unless they are one and the same

Because of everything I said race is earlier

I don't like dumb people in my race, just like the other guy doesn't like dumb people in his country..... But I hold race higher than country

why is race higher than country?

w/e I don't think we're going to agree anyways since we're operating from different principles

Already covered that

I don't seek agreement

yes I understand that

Race is the first most pre rational group you intrinsically belong to...

I would argue ethnicity has a far stronger basis

Also something I didn't mention, diversity in and of itself is a negative for society

given that the european race has torn themselves apart across ethnic lines

So it's always a negative to have diverse populations in close proximity to each other