I would argue ethnicity has a far stronger basis

Also something I didn't mention, diversity in and of itself is a negative for society

given that the european race has torn themselves apart across ethnic lines

So it's always a negative to have diverse populations in close proximity to each other

not if the benefits of the additional population outweigh the negatives of diversity

So there are many practical benefits for all white Societies

I just asserted the opposite

Whites don't need any other race

Maybe blacks do?

(clearly)

I know I've seen Putnum and friends and the negatives clearly are something that can be easily outweighed by benefits of additional population depending on what your goals are

Yes every race fights among themselves...that's not a "european" thing....we do it better maybe lol

Yes, if your goal is cheap labor, sure

it doesn't need to be exclusive to europeans to be a meaningful sign that ethnicity trumps race

Immigration is not required from outside groups

It's not necessary

Ethnicity is important

It's the next higher order than race....race then ethnicity

Or outer ring of identity

again it depends on what your goals are. Economic growth, increased production, general prosperity-- the inclusion of east asian immigrants has certainly produced more of these things, leaving lower races aside

So it's something like.... Family and race then ethnicity, then like region or territory

"muh country" types are very tied to territory though they dont say it....it comes out when they talk policy

of course since flag and country is the primary means of mobilizing a multi-racial and multi-ethnic block

Yes....but appeals to race and family are very common

Within that

They use every tool in the tool box

That's kind of a tangent....war propaganda

They don't refrain from otherizing the enemy in clear racial terms when it is important

sure

It's always important.....

But not to multinational corporations

🤔

just to be clear I'm very familiar with all of these arguments already, I used to be solidly alt-right

So

Why ask?

If you know

I suppose because I was engaging in discussion/argument

Just seeing what I'd say?

That's cool

Whyd you 'fall from grace'?

because although genetic science clearly disproves the retarded principles of universalism and racial egalitarian fantasies it also shows that if you actually wanted to go as far as possible to improve the genetic stock of your country or otherwise seek to create a 'master race' it would be a waste to exclude all members from other races. Furthermore, I think that it's reasonable to presume that CRISPR and other genetic modification tools are on the horizon and I believe that they will render traditional racial/ethnic blocks effectively obsolete.