Message from @Doctor Anon
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I feel like Alex Jones ban was justified to an extent, and I don't suspect they are going to start banning en mass but it does set a slippery slope.
These are private corporations after all
the private corp argument is not a good one imo
these are monopolies who can unperson you
electric companies can't refuse to give you electricity because you said something dumb
I’m definitely a pessimist on this issue. Remember this started with people like Jarred Taylor and Websites like The Daily Stormer. Now it’s hit Alex Jones.
From where I’m sitting it looks like we’ve already lost our footing on the slope, and are currently in full slide. The question is where does it stop.
I’m sympathetic to your perspective @Alexander Ramsey but I’m skeptical that the government is really going to help us. We have to find our own solutions. Not that I’m saying this is easy. We may just have to obfuscate who we are online and be prepared to live a nomadic lifestyle. Jumping from one website to another.
@Doctor Anon I’m curious, it what sense do you think the blanket ban of Alex Jones across multiple platforms and services was justified?
No website is currently good enough for mass ship jumping from YouTube or other similar platforms.
@Deleted User He *did* violate their ToS, specifically I'm looking on YouTube. And if you look into the info wars ToS, it's many times worse than YouTube's ToS. The hysteria is overblown when Infowars themselves are guilty of censorship on their platform of left wing views
Infowars ToS
*"it is not censorship if you violate the rules..." -infowars
It’s hard not to violate YoUTube TOS, but that is YouTube’s prerogative.
I don’t see how that Infowars TOS is worse than YouTubes. What is in the Infowars TOS that was violated by Infowars in the YoUTube TOS?
YouTube has bulling and hate speech in its TOS.
Not necessarily worse, but when I told people this ToS and said it's YouTube they were outraged, but when it's Infowars they don't really care. The fact they contain a clause for hate speech
Yeah I see it now
Infowars should be held to the same standards and they censor what they deem as hateful comments and accounts etc on their site, its ironic when they complain they are being censored on vauge hate speech charges when they are guilty of it themselves
YouTube is free to censor whoever they want, so is Infowars in their comments section. But if Infowars and Youtube behave the same, it’s clear then that they are both publishers, not platforms, and they have a political agenda.
I don't support censorship, but it's just hypocritical, the reactions.
I agree. I love open comments sections. Just nothing illegal.
I'd support a nationalized platform where rights are enforced but I don't think it's likely
Right, like an internet bill of rights. I agree. It would be good. I also agree it’s not likely
I’ve seen people say that. Facebook and twitter have too I think.
At the end of the day it's dumb to assume that these platform's leaders don't have an agenda and will act accordingly
I don't think we'll see any major alternative to the major platforms for some time
Natural progression of corporations gurantees these platform's will be replaced, but it's a matter of when
It’s going to be awhile, that’s for sure. I’ll always be scouting these possible alternatives, but I’m thinking this current natural monopoly has about a decade.
@Doctor Anon Google/Microsoft are bigger monopolies than most registered monopolies
“ Trump and Sessions never has a plan-Except cruelty “ by Charles P. Pierce
Hysterical article claims that Trump and Sessions are racist against “ anyone browner then himself “ because an illegal alien got deported. Whomp whomp.
http://archive.today/0xEZI
“ Study: 24 million white Americans think like the Alt-Right “ by Zack Beauchamp on Vox
Vox makes the absurd claim that 24 million people think like the Alt-Right. All you needed to qualify for being what Vox has described as literal Nazis in past articles, are these three things. 1. A strong sense of white identity 2. A belief in the importance of white solidarity 3. A sense of white victimization. How many none whites think like this? Are they Alt-Right too?
http://archive.today/TX2QU
not everyone in the alt-right is a literal nazi
I know
Vox has said that in the past. Not me.
has this author described the alt-right that way?
vox is not a writer
it's an organization
So? You really think this writer would make that distinction? They’re trying to tie millions to the Alt-Right