I n a c t i v i t y .

@Victor Von Doom Gender dysphoria

Homosexuality was on it for a very long time as well

@Victor Von Doom The other org is i think the APA (American psycholgical association)

tons of my psych profs have mentioned that there is, well they hinted at it, that there is reason to believe homosexuality and gender dysphoria to be psych illnesses that can in fact be treated.

honestly they are part of the reason i actually somewhat fight the power when it comes to scientific instututions running around with literal ideological dogma, that isnt based on any reason or logic other than furthering said ideology.

(Another example is race, rational wiki literally demonstrates this elvel of corruption within scientific institutions in the name of ideology, its absurd. On one hand race exists but it doesnt cuz its not called race, or issues of practicality or framing etc. literally constant non arguments to prove an ideology)

muh rasis syense <:brainlet:487682295889920016>

*Something factual disagrees with your ideology*

I-It's just ideological dogma! N-Not science!

It's such an odd coincidence how an overwhelming majority of the scientific community happens to disagree with y'all

someone mentioned race so let me just post this

Ethnicities even show this.

Though Europeans usually are multiple European ethnicities mixed together.

^Because of Imperialism.

because of war and economic integration you mean?

Europeans are mostly seperate ethnicities, not raelly mixed at all, even up until today. the USA is the only place these ethnicities reliably mixed, however on the continent the mixing is oddly rare however this is not unexpected.

@Alice Redacted *muh 98% of scientists disagree* honestly many scientists are driven by ideology very few are honest and the level of corruption in science is baffling. agreement does nto equate to truth. This is why individually we must investigate what conclusions we are being fed based on what evidence.

An example is the trans and homo issue in psychology, or the issue of race, ethnicities and anthropology and genetics. The issue for race is specifically so intense because of ideology. The fields have been so marred with politics that often times evidence is twisted, ignored or downright there is a refusal to publish said evidence in any prestigous journal, because of muh prestige and avoiding potential public backlash. Such a journal taking risks could mean its destruction as far as being called reliable.

The irony is religion is more honest than science currently is.

Why do u think native Americans never evolved from their stupid shit

@Bogatyr Bogumir stop being so salty

@Alice Redacted issue is im not, im actually in a field that has to participate in this shit regularly and there is a low key consensus between the profs and us to not be politically correct because it might get patients kileld, but officially we make no claims because muh funding, muh research papers, muh uni needs to be high class but to be high class it needs to have a high score that is purely determined by research papers produced.... which are financed by someone...

generally science has gone down the shitter and needs to go back to independant reserchers and multiple camps competing with each other. Because as of right now its an ideological cesspit with few industries remaining untouched.

What is so funny about religion being more honest than science?

@Bogatyr Bogumir

I'm still feeling some salt

Come at me next time with some real facts

Using people’s desires for meaning in life to take their money and give them fairy tales and placebo isn’t dishonest?

@Victor Von Doom

We aren’t talking about Scientology, that is a cult. We are talking about religions.

And what is this fairytale nonsense?
Was Snow White a real figure in history? No.
Was Jesus? Yes.
Fairytales and religion aren’t comparable.
Every religion at the very least is built upon some sort of real world fact(s). Fairytales have no real world foundation and are openly told as lessons and not real events. Each religion states that it is a fact.

@Abiss How can you say religion steals money when it has missions trips and churches being built with tithes. But certain government spending is unknown yet you pay taxes and do not question the officials which take them.

I didn’t make any claims about governments, you’re misdirecting.
Mission trips and churches = proof religions don’t take advantage of people for money? I want to understand clearly- is that what you are saying?

I am saying that when money is given charitably to a church it serves a purpose which is transparent and obvious. Besides meager pay for the pastor to live off of, even more meager if they have a family, all money donated goes towards growing the religion. The religion's leaders don't benefit from it.

Christianity is a cult too ngl

How so?

Churches can essentialy use scummy tactics, however in the idea of the religion, particularly christianity, its all charity. The church will then use these funds and organize missions, helping the poor or sick, donations towardshospitals or even funding of schools that need money. The church essentially used to be the ultimate lolbertarian private charity org. With govorment handouts and seperation of it from state 100% this has changed and the church in general has an issue of corruption that runs very deep ad very wide.

However as Victor said, the church is blatently transparent where its spending the money. If its keeping it its obvious. secular institutions simply dont have this, its simply less evident.

I suppose this depends what country we are talking about, but in the US it is pretty much the opposite of what you are saying about transparency. A church gets automatic charity status, thus paying no taxes, and has no obligation to report on what it does with its money. Basically a money laundering dream come true. I don’t think you need my help finding examples of very wealthy ministers bragging about it. A non-religious charity org in the US has to prove itself to the fed to get status, and also report on all its money every year to avoid taxes. There is no such standard for churches in the US.

I don’t see how you can speak so universally about ‘the church’. There are so many and so varied. Are you familiar with the Vatican Bank?

Daily <@&516817984782729217> Question <:PraiseGod:484196233020440586>

- Can one be Moral without being religious?

yeah

No

No

No

yeah, but not society

potentially, but you would do it wholly by accident and it would be unlikely