Message from @Da_Fish
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Hoppe
communes are literally
stateless societies
No
How will a stateless society defend itself from a state?
it cant
voluntary army
Nice
stateless socites dont work large scale
All of those armies rebel
@Doctor Anon A volunteer army won't do well against a fully trained, professional army with tanks, aircraft, etc
Ideal communism ftw..
but small scale can work
look at the freikiorps
FREIKORPS
Yes
worked well for killing commies
then started a rebellion
Though i dont think it can scale to a large one
It could be *possible* though
that almost destroyed germany
@Doctor Anon Sure it is
Just ask Somalia.
Stateless society's past one person dont work
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A stateless society is possible, I know of a few and they had to have existed at one point before civilization
But a stateless nation is by definition not possible
this is without even pondering whether it is ideal or effective by any means
Stateless nation isn't possible?
What is: Euskadi
What is: Punjab
What is: Uyghur people
What is: The Kurds
@EyeKanSpel
A nation is not the same thing as a nation-state. They're separate terms.
"na·tion
ˈnāSH(ə)n/
noun
a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory."
All four of those fit that definition.
In contrast with
"na·tion-state
noun
a sovereign state whose citizens or subjects are relatively homogeneous in factors such as language or common descent."
ex. Germany is a nation-state but Spain is not, because several nations inhabit it.
Including Euskadi.
No. There will always be someone superior, and that person will naturally have an accumulation of resources. These resources will be sought after by subordinates and a fee will be needed. This fee will be either in the form of a price, for a transaction, or a tax, for a service.
Africa
@εïз irma εïз Those are societies, not nations
When we think of a Nation, borders, government and international representation are involved
it depends on your definition of a state