Message from @mdcrubengonza

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2018-06-27 01:55:59 UTC  

Yes

2018-06-27 01:56:04 UTC  

worked well for killing commies

2018-06-27 01:56:07 UTC  

then started a rebellion

2018-06-27 01:57:29 UTC  

Though i dont think it can scale to a large one

2018-06-27 01:57:53 UTC  

It could be *possible* though

2018-06-27 01:58:21 UTC  

Everyone loved the freikorps until the Kapp Putsch

2018-06-27 01:58:30 UTC  

that almost destroyed germany

2018-06-27 02:02:07 UTC  

@Doctor Anon Sure it is


Just ask Somalia.

2018-06-27 02:06:40 UTC  

Stateless society's past one person dont work

2018-06-27 02:06:55 UTC  

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2018-06-27 02:26:53 UTC  

A stateless society is possible, I know of a few and they had to have existed at one point before civilization

2018-06-27 02:27:07 UTC  

But a stateless nation is by definition not possible

2018-06-27 02:34:08 UTC  

this is without even pondering whether it is ideal or effective by any means

2018-06-27 06:43:13 UTC  

Stateless nation isn't possible?
What is: Euskadi
What is: Punjab
What is: Uyghur people
What is: The Kurds
@EyeKanSpel

2018-06-27 06:43:47 UTC  

A nation is not the same thing as a nation-state. They're separate terms.

2018-06-27 06:44:09 UTC  

"na·tion

ˈnāSH(ə)n/

noun

a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory."

2018-06-27 06:44:16 UTC  

All four of those fit that definition.

2018-06-27 06:44:37 UTC  

In contrast with
"na·tion-state

noun

a sovereign state whose citizens or subjects are relatively homogeneous in factors such as language or common descent."

2018-06-27 06:46:06 UTC  

ex. Germany is a nation-state but Spain is not, because several nations inhabit it.

2018-06-27 06:46:27 UTC  

Including Euskadi.

2018-06-27 08:17:27 UTC  

No. There will always be someone superior, and that person will naturally have an accumulation of resources. These resources will be sought after by subordinates and a fee will be needed. This fee will be either in the form of a price, for a transaction, or a tax, for a service.

2018-06-27 11:50:54 UTC  

Africa

2018-06-27 12:36:40 UTC  

@εïз irma εïз Those are societies, not nations

2018-06-27 12:37:18 UTC  

When we think of a Nation, borders, government and international representation are involved

2018-06-27 14:32:10 UTC  

it depends on your definition of a state

2018-06-27 14:32:37 UTC  

to me, a state is a governing body which holds a monopoly on violence (a generally accepted definiton)

2018-06-27 14:33:40 UTC  

in most communes there is some sort of organization, whether official or unofficial, which makes decisions, consisting of either one leader or of a democratic sort of thing

2018-06-27 14:37:40 UTC  

to me that seems like a micro state

2018-06-27 14:38:11 UTC  

they hold a monopoly on violence in the commune and they make decisions using it

2018-06-27 14:38:28 UTC  

absolute anarchy can not exist within groups of people

2018-06-27 14:38:45 UTC  

because a hierarchy or order will inevitably develop

2018-06-27 14:39:57 UTC  

"stateless society" is an oxymoron

2018-06-27 15:42:57 UTC  

It's like asking if a society without people is a society

2018-06-27 16:01:45 UTC  

@Der Alte Fritz That's one of my favorite Johnny Rebel songs

2018-06-27 17:56:35 UTC  

@EyeKanSpel No. Just false lmao

2018-06-27 17:56:42 UTC  

Those are literally examples of nations.

2018-06-27 17:57:10 UTC  

"na·tion

ˈnāSH(ə)n/

noun

a large aggregate of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory."

2018-06-27 17:57:26 UTC  

Since you didn't read it the first time. You can't change the definitions of words.

2018-06-27 18:03:37 UTC  

Political scientists and anthropologists would both agree to that definition and that the examples I gave were nations.

2018-06-27 18:03:38 UTC  

So I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.