Message from @Griselda

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2018-08-09 03:43:16 UTC  

this is a scientific fact

2018-08-09 03:43:31 UTC  

society is also better off with women being homemakers

2018-08-09 05:37:31 UTC  

^

2018-08-09 05:39:56 UTC  

What about the case where a women has to work for income, either to support just herself or her children. If her role is to take care of the children wouldn't ensuring there's money to feed the kids and pay for rent be part of that?

2018-08-09 09:31:46 UTC  

@Alexander Ramsey “better” is completely subjective and useless in an argument like this

2018-08-09 09:31:56 UTC  

So you can’t scientifically prove that

2018-08-09 09:33:07 UTC  

I guess you could argue that it could be proven that women would be happier, but even then there’s no way that could ever be universal so you’re just left with “ most women would be happy staying at home”

2018-08-09 09:33:14 UTC  

But even if you could prove that

2018-08-09 09:33:23 UTC  

Being happier isn’t intrinsically better

2018-08-09 09:34:03 UTC  

If that’s all there was people would just say “ it’s scientifically proven if you buy like a ton of cocaine and overdose on all of it in a day, that’s scientifically the best use of your time “

2018-08-09 09:36:05 UTC  

And “society being better off” also is again subjective

2018-08-09 09:36:27 UTC  

If there was an objectively “better” way to do society

2018-08-09 09:36:39 UTC  

We wouldn’t call it the Right and the Left

2018-08-09 09:36:47 UTC  

We’d call it the Correct and the Wrong

2018-08-09 09:36:56 UTC  

But society and reality don’t work like that

2018-08-09 11:54:04 UTC  

The stats prove woman have been getting unhappier since joining the work force. Also, divorce has sky rocketed and it is fair to say it might be a factor.

2018-08-09 14:48:55 UTC  

@Griselda happier lives sounds better to me

2018-08-09 14:50:02 UTC  

Stay at home moms have the highest happiness rates of any other career that women pursue

2018-08-09 14:50:57 UTC  

Children who come from families with stay at home moms are less likely to be involved in crime, do better in school, and lead more successful lives in general

2018-08-09 14:51:08 UTC  

That sounds like a net benefit to society to me

2018-08-09 14:59:03 UTC  

Yeah I’m agreeing that most of that stuff is better

2018-08-09 14:59:11 UTC  

I guess I was more arguing semantics

2018-08-09 14:59:19 UTC  

So that was just a flaw on my part

2018-08-09 14:59:20 UTC  

Oops

2018-08-09 14:59:24 UTC  
2018-08-09 15:00:05 UTC  

I think the question is worded poorly

2018-08-09 15:00:24 UTC  

It’s wether they should do both or should be required to choose

2018-08-09 15:00:32 UTC  

That’s kind of a false dichotomy

2018-08-09 15:00:38 UTC  

A better question would be

2018-08-09 15:00:49 UTC  

Should they do both or shouldn’t they do both

2018-08-09 15:01:05 UTC  

Not should they do both or should they not have a say

2018-08-09 15:01:16 UTC  

Because there are so many in between

2018-08-09 15:46:46 UTC  

I think most people would understand single mothers, single woman, and married woman without children working. As a SAHM myself we have many things that will need to change in order for the majority of women to stay home.

2018-08-09 17:40:14 UTC  

Single mothers are the product of a dysfunctional society

2018-08-09 17:46:16 UTC  

^

2018-08-09 17:46:20 UTC  

net drain too

2018-08-09 17:46:42 UTC  

The majority of single mothers are on welfare

2018-08-09 17:46:42 UTC  

and their kids are more likely to become criminals and feed off welfare as well

2018-08-09 17:46:57 UTC  

The majority are minorities

2018-08-09 17:47:07 UTC  

I had a good resource but not on the PC im on rn

2018-08-09 17:47:11 UTC  

Im on vacation