Message from @Griselda

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2018-08-08 22:39:54 UTC  

They should stay home once they have children. Prior part time work maybe.

2018-08-08 22:56:15 UTC  

women can do what they want it's not my choice

2018-08-09 00:28:06 UTC  

But it does affect you at some point or another

2018-08-09 01:17:00 UTC  

Late, but Agreed ^

2018-08-09 03:28:12 UTC  

It’s a women’s choice, and wether or not it affects you doesn’t mean you have a right to have a say in it.

2018-08-09 03:28:35 UTC  

Lots of things “effect” people but aren’t about them

2018-08-09 03:28:55 UTC  

The price of gas “effects” you but that doesn’t mean you get to choose what it costs

2018-08-09 03:43:06 UTC  

Women who are stay at home moms have better lives

2018-08-09 03:43:16 UTC  

this is a scientific fact

2018-08-09 03:43:31 UTC  

society is also better off with women being homemakers

2018-08-09 05:37:31 UTC  

^

2018-08-09 05:39:56 UTC  

What about the case where a women has to work for income, either to support just herself or her children. If her role is to take care of the children wouldn't ensuring there's money to feed the kids and pay for rent be part of that?

2018-08-09 09:31:46 UTC  

@Alexander Ramsey “better” is completely subjective and useless in an argument like this

2018-08-09 09:31:56 UTC  

So you can’t scientifically prove that

2018-08-09 09:33:07 UTC  

I guess you could argue that it could be proven that women would be happier, but even then there’s no way that could ever be universal so you’re just left with “ most women would be happy staying at home”

2018-08-09 09:33:14 UTC  

But even if you could prove that

2018-08-09 09:33:23 UTC  

Being happier isn’t intrinsically better

2018-08-09 09:34:03 UTC  

If that’s all there was people would just say “ it’s scientifically proven if you buy like a ton of cocaine and overdose on all of it in a day, that’s scientifically the best use of your time “

2018-08-09 09:36:05 UTC  

And “society being better off” also is again subjective

2018-08-09 09:36:27 UTC  

If there was an objectively “better” way to do society

2018-08-09 09:36:39 UTC  

We wouldn’t call it the Right and the Left

2018-08-09 09:36:47 UTC  

We’d call it the Correct and the Wrong

2018-08-09 09:36:56 UTC  

But society and reality don’t work like that

2018-08-09 11:54:04 UTC  

The stats prove woman have been getting unhappier since joining the work force. Also, divorce has sky rocketed and it is fair to say it might be a factor.

2018-08-09 14:48:55 UTC  

@Griselda happier lives sounds better to me

2018-08-09 14:50:02 UTC  

Stay at home moms have the highest happiness rates of any other career that women pursue

2018-08-09 14:50:57 UTC  

Children who come from families with stay at home moms are less likely to be involved in crime, do better in school, and lead more successful lives in general

2018-08-09 14:51:08 UTC  

That sounds like a net benefit to society to me

2018-08-09 14:59:03 UTC  

Yeah I’m agreeing that most of that stuff is better

2018-08-09 14:59:11 UTC  

I guess I was more arguing semantics

2018-08-09 14:59:19 UTC  

So that was just a flaw on my part

2018-08-09 14:59:20 UTC  

Oops

2018-08-09 14:59:24 UTC  
2018-08-09 15:00:05 UTC  

I think the question is worded poorly

2018-08-09 15:00:24 UTC  

It’s wether they should do both or should be required to choose

2018-08-09 15:00:32 UTC  

That’s kind of a false dichotomy

2018-08-09 15:00:38 UTC  

A better question would be

2018-08-09 15:00:49 UTC  

Should they do both or shouldn’t they do both

2018-08-09 15:01:05 UTC  

Not should they do both or should they not have a say

2018-08-09 15:01:16 UTC  

Because there are so many in between

2018-08-09 15:46:46 UTC  

I think most people would understand single mothers, single woman, and married woman without children working. As a SAHM myself we have many things that will need to change in order for the majority of women to stay home.