Message from @Alexander Ramsey
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Lots of things “effect” people but aren’t about them
The price of gas “effects” you but that doesn’t mean you get to choose what it costs
Women who are stay at home moms have better lives
this is a scientific fact
society is also better off with women being homemakers
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What about the case where a women has to work for income, either to support just herself or her children. If her role is to take care of the children wouldn't ensuring there's money to feed the kids and pay for rent be part of that?
@Alexander Ramsey “better” is completely subjective and useless in an argument like this
So you can’t scientifically prove that
I guess you could argue that it could be proven that women would be happier, but even then there’s no way that could ever be universal so you’re just left with “ most women would be happy staying at home”
But even if you could prove that
Being happier isn’t intrinsically better
If that’s all there was people would just say “ it’s scientifically proven if you buy like a ton of cocaine and overdose on all of it in a day, that’s scientifically the best use of your time “
And “society being better off” also is again subjective
If there was an objectively “better” way to do society
We wouldn’t call it the Right and the Left
We’d call it the Correct and the Wrong
But society and reality don’t work like that
The stats prove woman have been getting unhappier since joining the work force. Also, divorce has sky rocketed and it is fair to say it might be a factor.
@Griselda happier lives sounds better to me
Children who come from families with stay at home moms are less likely to be involved in crime, do better in school, and lead more successful lives in general
That sounds like a net benefit to society to me
Yeah I’m agreeing that most of that stuff is better
I guess I was more arguing semantics
So that was just a flaw on my part
Oops
I think the question is worded poorly
It’s wether they should do both or should be required to choose
That’s kind of a false dichotomy
A better question would be
Should they do both or shouldn’t they do both
Not should they do both or should they not have a say
Because there are so many in between
I think most people would understand single mothers, single woman, and married woman without children working. As a SAHM myself we have many things that will need to change in order for the majority of women to stay home.
Single mothers are the product of a dysfunctional society
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net drain too
The majority of single mothers are on welfare
and their kids are more likely to become criminals and feed off welfare as well