Yeah that sounds about right

I'm glad that this question though is answerable.

Well, the politics of a society may shift, but there is a true Left/Right. Currently the center is embedded leftward, but that doesn't mean there isn't a true center

otherwise, how would you judge the society moved at all

So you would say that when talking about left and right contextually is just the overton window?

@Diadochi

@Deleted User but you think Liberalism was originally created by the left?

Sure, I suppose @campodin. Most people who call themselves Rightists, I would call Leftists -- and that seems to cover a fair amount of people here as well. They may be "Right" as much as society is concerned, but they aren't actually.

@campodin Id say the division is rather best served with the traditional idea of left -> authoritarianism and right -> Anarchy. Of course this is defining the extremes but when you add say an economic axis then you get something that can actually define a political ideology. Generally it holds true to say that even if the right wishes for a greater state and collectivism in general it still values individual merit and input as well as productivity

I agree that the center is really a floating entity

its defined by the extremes of its opponents

today it lands firmly in what is rationally leftism, and as such is simply watered down leftism

@Bogatyr Bogumir I think that is the opposite of how to look at it. Anarchism has classically been associated with the left

The right values hierarchy

@campodin I mean gneerally you can simply flip the scale as I defined it. Either way I tend to define the extremes as totalitarian vs anarchy. I dont think authoritarianism is the right word

Ok, in that sense maybe.

there’s a reason that left-authoritarianism and left-anarchism are distinguished and same for the right

Left anarchism doesn't and can't exist. Change my mind

many people would see it as left -> anarchy and right -> authoritarian

well communism is supposed to be anarchist in concept

i.e. no state, no money, etc

I figured you would point out that I just contradicted myself

cool

@everyone Daily Question 2 🔖

Which historical figure do you most look up to?

I’ll start

Hitler lol

Thomas Jefferson

Tsar during ww1

@Unter König i literally said that in my head

Lmao

Tsar was incompetent

hitler

hitler

Let himself get tooken over by fucking communists because he had no idea how to win a war

The war was unwinnable

@L0GAN

Codreanu

He acted on emotion

Shouldn’t have got involved

Instead of tactics

^