Message from @ken

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2018-10-02 19:04:47 UTC  

@campodin Id say the division is rather best served with the traditional idea of left -> authoritarianism and right -> Anarchy. Of course this is defining the extremes but when you add say an economic axis then you get something that can actually define a political ideology. Generally it holds true to say that even if the right wishes for a greater state and collectivism in general it still values individual merit and input as well as productivity

2018-10-02 19:05:12 UTC  

I agree that the center is really a floating entity

2018-10-02 19:05:20 UTC  

its defined by the extremes of its opponents

2018-10-02 19:05:37 UTC  

today it lands firmly in what is rationally leftism, and as such is simply watered down leftism

2018-10-02 19:06:53 UTC  

@Bogatyr Bogumir I think that is the opposite of how to look at it. Anarchism has classically been associated with the left

2018-10-02 19:07:25 UTC  

The right values hierarchy

2018-10-02 19:07:47 UTC  

@campodin I mean gneerally you can simply flip the scale as I defined it. Either way I tend to define the extremes as totalitarian vs anarchy. I dont think authoritarianism is the right word

2018-10-02 19:08:34 UTC  

Ok, in that sense maybe.

2018-10-02 19:09:04 UTC  

there’s a reason that left-authoritarianism and left-anarchism are distinguished and same for the right

2018-10-02 19:09:44 UTC  

Left anarchism doesn't and can't exist. Change my mind

2018-10-02 19:09:45 UTC  

many people would see it as left -> anarchy and right -> authoritarian

2018-10-02 19:10:17 UTC  

well communism is supposed to be anarchist in concept

2018-10-02 19:10:31 UTC  

i.e. no state, no money, etc

2018-10-02 19:10:50 UTC  

I figured you would point out that I just contradicted myself

2018-10-02 19:11:11 UTC  

cool

2018-10-03 01:57:17 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 2 🔖

Which historical figure do you most look up to?

2018-10-03 01:57:26 UTC  

I’ll start

2018-10-03 01:57:31 UTC  

Hitler lol

2018-10-03 01:57:31 UTC  

Thomas Jefferson

2018-10-03 01:57:40 UTC  

Tsar during ww1

2018-10-03 01:57:47 UTC  

@Unter König i literally said that in my head

2018-10-03 01:57:50 UTC  

Lmao

2018-10-03 01:57:56 UTC  

Tsar was incompetent

2018-10-03 01:57:56 UTC  

hitler

2018-10-03 01:58:04 UTC  

hitler

2018-10-03 01:58:14 UTC  

Let himself get tooken over by fucking communists because he had no idea how to win a war

2018-10-03 01:58:23 UTC  

The war was unwinnable

2018-10-03 01:58:28 UTC  
2018-10-03 01:58:33 UTC  

Codreanu

2018-10-03 01:58:33 UTC  

He acted on emotion

2018-10-03 01:58:38 UTC  

Shouldn’t have got involved

2018-10-03 01:58:38 UTC  

Instead of tactics

2018-10-03 01:58:42 UTC  

^

2018-10-03 01:58:47 UTC  

Focused on building eastern holdings

2018-10-03 01:58:52 UTC  

And developing economy

2018-10-03 02:00:06 UTC  

Jesus

2018-10-03 02:00:32 UTC  

Adolf Hitler

2018-10-03 02:03:07 UTC  

fuck i said hitler in my head as a joke i didnt think people would be like "YUP"

2018-10-03 02:03:27 UTC  

imagine saying hitler

2018-10-03 02:03:29 UTC  

oh wait

2018-10-03 02:04:19 UTC  

anyway, does a modern politician count? they will be part of history and some ARE part of history already @Da_Fish