Message from @SilverLining

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2018-10-05 19:52:56 UTC  

Yes

2018-10-05 19:55:15 UTC  

Yes, but the Democrats will try to drag it as long as possible, but eventually we'll get him through. This is one of these events we can't afford to lose.

2018-10-05 20:00:43 UTC  

nope

2018-10-05 20:00:51 UTC  

he will be but he shouldn't

2018-10-05 20:23:13 UTC  

I'm sick of how all Liberals hate him, but Republicans love him. Can we please stop politicizing things for 5 seconds?

2018-10-05 20:25:47 UTC  

That's impossible

2018-10-05 20:33:22 UTC  

stop pinging

2018-10-05 20:41:29 UTC  

Why the hell shouldn't he be confirmed

2018-10-05 20:41:36 UTC  

Hes done literally nothing wrong.

2018-10-05 20:41:54 UTC  

It's all just character assassination because he was chosen by President Trump.

2018-10-05 20:42:00 UTC  

He was a Saint.

2018-10-05 21:01:08 UTC  

the non political version is simply yes

2018-10-05 21:01:35 UTC  

the political version with all implications involved is -> He must be confirmed, because the consequences would be too dire

2018-10-05 21:02:34 UTC  

I mean, there's allegations - I personally believe them due to evidence in the form of older therapist notes, before he was considered for the SCOTUS

2018-10-05 21:02:46 UTC  

But beyond that, he's got quite a terrible record in terms of what he's supported

2018-10-05 21:12:06 UTC  

The evidence for the allegations have been literally disproven though, there is nothing that can indicate that he was remotely involved.

in terms of what he supported I mean it depends im not particularly wel read in that field but generally I think he might be whats necessary to rectify a lot of what the US has going wrong in it. I mean its not like it will change much, its not like the deep state or any state actually provides change on it sown that is good for the people :/ Not this state at least

2018-10-05 21:30:13 UTC  

He supported the US threatening crimes against humanity to a civilian.

2018-10-05 21:30:21 UTC  

Someone completely innocent.

2018-10-05 21:30:38 UTC  

He also supported not allowing a lawsuit for the torture said civilian had to go through

2018-10-05 21:32:14 UTC  

He said that Exxon mobile shouldn't be charged for human rights violations they committed in Indonesia because the US didn't have jurisdiction in Indonesia

2018-10-05 21:32:46 UTC  

Even though it's a US company...

2018-10-05 21:33:00 UTC  

and thus, would need to be sued here

2018-10-05 21:35:02 UTC  

He's also advocated for the NSA and metadata collection

2018-10-05 21:35:12 UTC  

Arguing that it shouldn't be limited or blocked whatsoever

2018-10-05 21:36:32 UTC  

So unless you think that companies being prosecuted for violating human rights, a lack of torture, and not enough governmental wiretapping are all blights on America

2018-10-05 21:36:36 UTC  

you really shouldn't be for him

2018-10-05 21:36:41 UTC  

But hey, Trump nominated him.

2018-10-05 21:37:20 UTC  

I used to support Trump, but it's impossible to at this point.

2018-10-05 21:37:23 UTC  

It's a lost cause

2018-10-05 21:37:52 UTC  

Of course, while my ideology has heavily shifted...

2018-10-05 21:38:20 UTC  

I still don't see how one can justify supporting Trump or his nomination for the SC

2018-10-05 21:49:28 UTC  

Whether or not what is "torture" for what you're referencing is actually debatable. On top of that, if you murder someone and flee across a national border, you aren't tried in that new country. You're extradited to the country the crime was committed in. So, Exxon should be tried in Indonesia. *"But they're human rights violations!"* What kind of point is that? If an entity is committing human rights violations anywhere, they aren't held to the laws of a different land. Human rights are not American rights, they're __human__ rights. That means Exxon will not, and should not, be tried by the US government, but by an international court @SilverLining

2018-10-05 21:55:15 UTC  

That still doesn't cover the NSA wiretapping which he endorsed

2018-10-05 21:55:18 UTC  

Also, to add to that...

2018-10-05 22:01:26 UTC  

How is being secretly imprisoned, being denied due process, being denied counsel, being threatened with torture, forcibly disappeared (an international human rights violation), and tortured acceptable?

2018-10-05 22:01:33 UTC  

This was to a US citizen, done by US troops...

2018-10-05 22:01:43 UTC  

It's not "debatable" whatsoever

2018-10-05 22:02:08 UTC  

The crime committed was fleeing to Kenya from Somalia (where the American was studying abroad) after a civil war erupted.

2018-10-05 22:04:15 UTC  

Also, the citizens couldn't file their charges within Indonesia was the government, particularly the military, was complicit.

2018-10-05 22:06:13 UTC  

He also, of course, believes the president should not be able to be prosecuted

2018-10-05 22:06:43 UTC  

As in, the person who occupies the office of the president - not just Trump