the non political version is simply yes

the political version with all implications involved is -> He must be confirmed, because the consequences would be too dire

I mean, there's allegations - I personally believe them due to evidence in the form of older therapist notes, before he was considered for the SCOTUS

But beyond that, he's got quite a terrible record in terms of what he's supported

The evidence for the allegations have been literally disproven though, there is nothing that can indicate that he was remotely involved.

in terms of what he supported I mean it depends im not particularly wel read in that field but generally I think he might be whats necessary to rectify a lot of what the US has going wrong in it. I mean its not like it will change much, its not like the deep state or any state actually provides change on it sown that is good for the people :/ Not this state at least

He supported the US threatening crimes against humanity to a civilian.

Someone completely innocent.

He also supported not allowing a lawsuit for the torture said civilian had to go through

He said that Exxon mobile shouldn't be charged for human rights violations they committed in Indonesia because the US didn't have jurisdiction in Indonesia

Even though it's a US company...

and thus, would need to be sued here

He's also advocated for the NSA and metadata collection

Arguing that it shouldn't be limited or blocked whatsoever

So unless you think that companies being prosecuted for violating human rights, a lack of torture, and not enough governmental wiretapping are all blights on America

you really shouldn't be for him

But hey, Trump nominated him.

I used to support Trump, but it's impossible to at this point.

It's a lost cause

Of course, while my ideology has heavily shifted...

I still don't see how one can justify supporting Trump or his nomination for the SC

Whether or not what is "torture" for what you're referencing is actually debatable. On top of that, if you murder someone and flee across a national border, you aren't tried in that new country. You're extradited to the country the crime was committed in. So, Exxon should be tried in Indonesia. *"But they're human rights violations!"* What kind of point is that? If an entity is committing human rights violations anywhere, they aren't held to the laws of a different land. Human rights are not American rights, they're __human__ rights. That means Exxon will not, and should not, be tried by the US government, but by an international court @SilverLining

That still doesn't cover the NSA wiretapping which he endorsed

Also, to add to that...

How is being secretly imprisoned, being denied due process, being denied counsel, being threatened with torture, forcibly disappeared (an international human rights violation), and tortured acceptable?

This was to a US citizen, done by US troops...

It's not "debatable" whatsoever

The crime committed was fleeing to Kenya from Somalia (where the American was studying abroad) after a civil war erupted.

Also, the citizens couldn't file their charges within Indonesia was the government, particularly the military, was complicit.

He also, of course, believes the president should not be able to be prosecuted

As in, the person who occupies the office of the president - not just Trump

He believed Nixon shouldn't have been persecuted in the Watergate Scandal

this is not epic

@SilverLining I have my reserves on the kid, however the issue of the wiretapping is an issue, IMHO I think Trump is a false revolutionary, here to appease the apetite of the potentially revolutionary right wing, bring the simmering water down a few degrees. Then when the waters have clamed, one, two terms later, the dems or the repubs will simply go and continue turning america into a dystopia

it seems to be a method of either 1) stopping the revolution or 2) controlling the revolution before, or after, it happens

are you talking about a right-leaning revolution?

because yeah, no

I feel like President Trump is a puppet to a bigger puppet.

The terms deep state

@JogaFlame Trump is /ourguy/

He is playing 5d chess

Hes too intelligent for you to understand his plans