Message from @SilverLining

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2018-10-11 03:06:50 UTC  

Just saying

2018-10-11 03:06:57 UTC  

you still haven't addressed what I've been saying

2018-10-11 03:09:50 UTC  

You last asked me:

"What is Ryan Faulk's position then?" and I never answered it because
1. I don't know
2. His position wasn't being invoked anyways. I was using a hypothetical example, and how you would respond to it if it happened

2018-10-11 03:10:08 UTC  

versus how I you would respond to it if I sent you a source that was on your side

2018-10-11 03:10:51 UTC  

okay...?

2018-10-11 03:11:06 UTC  

This has to do with the topic at hand because...?

2018-10-11 03:11:58 UTC  

It's not directly related, but it's indirectly related because it is addressing your method of argument

2018-10-11 03:12:25 UTC  

okay?

2018-10-11 03:12:30 UTC  

So it's not related to the topic at all

2018-10-11 03:12:46 UTC  

Isn't this an ad hom?

2018-10-11 03:12:48 UTC  

kinda

2018-10-11 03:12:52 UTC  

In a sense

2018-10-11 03:13:13 UTC  

"You're being dishonest here and not arguing in good faith"

2018-10-11 03:13:15 UTC  

you're attacking my supposed, hypothetical inconsistency, rather than my actual points

2018-10-11 03:13:17 UTC  

not really an ad hom

2018-10-11 03:13:23 UTC  

he's not attacking you, he's attacking the method by which you stated your case

2018-10-11 03:13:24 UTC  

I mean

2018-10-11 03:13:28 UTC  

okay?

2018-10-11 03:13:29 UTC  

@katie yes

2018-10-11 03:13:36 UTC  

So what's the error in how I set it up now?

2018-10-11 03:13:52 UTC  

I offered a myriad of source-independent points regardless...

2018-10-11 03:14:18 UTC  

The error is not your position, it's how you expect it to be debated and your disingenuous standard

2018-10-11 03:14:43 UTC  

I don't really see how the standard is disingenuous

2018-10-11 03:14:52 UTC  

I'd accept any counterpoint really

2018-10-11 03:15:52 UTC  

I'm just using the source out of convenience

2018-10-11 03:16:03 UTC  

you could argue the source contains some illegitimate points

2018-10-11 03:16:09 UTC  

I could argue said points are legitimate

2018-10-11 03:19:30 UTC  

Of course you can argue that it has a legitimate position, but you don't allow the opposition the opportunity to argue against it

2018-10-11 03:20:53 UTC  

my general pattern of typing involves short fragments, which when combined make a full sentence

2018-10-11 03:20:54 UTC  

or point

2018-10-11 03:20:57 UTC  

or something to that effect

2018-10-11 03:21:03 UTC  

If that's what you're complaining about...?

2018-10-11 03:21:11 UTC  

If I take issue to something, I'll try to refute it point by point

2018-10-11 11:36:28 UTC  

Well from what I understand in my genetics course is that 1) many traits are multifactorial, those that arent or rather a multitude fo traits that combine together to form a clinical picture are associations and these go on to syndromes in the case of defects. Syndromes are genetic however their cause is multifactorial. Much like IQ has a genetic range, most people will land in the average and I mean the VAST majority. Those that dont have either a medical issue or alternatively a gift. If you reach your genetic potential for IQ that is the enviormental factors as well as factors of your development matter. However there is marked variation between populations that cna be seen by country averages, the result is that we can then extrapolate racial differences as well as well as differences in "styles" of thought through other tests etc. Its not brutally deterministic but there is a reason country X looks like it does and country Z looks the way it does. Most often it is due to the peope inside the country, rarely is it due to people outside the country. (This has been recently shifted as well).

Essentially genes matter, there will be differences, and basically the racial IQ debate is somewhat pointless since it does exist, however what matters is rather now the science of basically populations.

2018-10-11 11:37:44 UTC  

Can X live with Y in peace, under what circumstances generally speaking we have the answer but because of some false virtues we are afraid to say otherwise because we are afraid of devaluing someones life, making them subhuman when thats not whats happening at all. And all debates centered around population differences need to avoid this like the plague otherwise we jump into the realm of opinion and some really wonky mental gymnastics rather than truth.

2018-10-11 11:41:40 UTC  

@The American Nationalist MUSLIMS ARE THE SIMPTON!!JEWS ARE THE CAUSE!!!!

2018-10-11 13:52:52 UTC  

<@&452955169219543040> stupid

2018-10-11 21:12:54 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question 🔖

Will the U.S grow faster than China, ever for the future? Will China permanently or only temporarily surpass the U.S economically?

2018-10-11 21:13:17 UTC  

Don't know

2018-10-11 21:13:30 UTC  

the US can't grow faster currently

2018-10-11 21:13:32 UTC  

idk