Message from @SilverLining
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I don't keep online shitpost arguments at the forefront of my thoughts
Well, let me put it to you plainly:
If you haven't noticed by now, every time you ask for a source, I always give you one that is more "open" and in agreement with your position, than say, citing Ryan Faulk or some race realism site.
I do this for two reasons
1. Because you'll be more open to it.
2. Because it leaves room for you to defend yourself.
Every time I do this, you look at the article, without allowing room for exchange about what you have just saw, you point out that they have an explanation for the data (which they should), and expect the other person in the debate to accept it unquestioningly without allowing them to challenge it. You take the ground they give you to defend yourself, and then abuse it.
If you are not serious about debating the topic, sure, that's fine, but in that case, if you're in a debate server, you should expect other people to
@The Big Oof stop DESTROYING libtards with FACTS and KNOWLEDGE
well that was interesting
tbh
Just saying
you still haven't addressed what I've been saying
You last asked me:
"What is Ryan Faulk's position then?" and I never answered it because
1. I don't know
2. His position wasn't being invoked anyways. I was using a hypothetical example, and how you would respond to it if it happened
versus how I you would respond to it if I sent you a source that was on your side
okay...?
This has to do with the topic at hand because...?
It's not directly related, but it's indirectly related because it is addressing your method of argument
okay?
So it's not related to the topic at all
Isn't this an ad hom?
kinda
In a sense
"You're being dishonest here and not arguing in good faith"
not really an ad hom
he's not attacking you, he's attacking the method by which you stated your case
I mean
okay?
@katie yes
So what's the error in how I set it up now?
I offered a myriad of source-independent points regardless...
The error is not your position, it's how you expect it to be debated and your disingenuous standard
I don't really see how the standard is disingenuous
I'd accept any counterpoint really
I'm just using the source out of convenience
you could argue the source contains some illegitimate points
I could argue said points are legitimate
Of course you can argue that it has a legitimate position, but you don't allow the opposition the opportunity to argue against it
my general pattern of typing involves short fragments, which when combined make a full sentence
or point
or something to that effect
If that's what you're complaining about...?
If I take issue to something, I'll try to refute it point by point
Well from what I understand in my genetics course is that 1) many traits are multifactorial, those that arent or rather a multitude fo traits that combine together to form a clinical picture are associations and these go on to syndromes in the case of defects. Syndromes are genetic however their cause is multifactorial. Much like IQ has a genetic range, most people will land in the average and I mean the VAST majority. Those that dont have either a medical issue or alternatively a gift. If you reach your genetic potential for IQ that is the enviormental factors as well as factors of your development matter. However there is marked variation between populations that cna be seen by country averages, the result is that we can then extrapolate racial differences as well as well as differences in "styles" of thought through other tests etc. Its not brutally deterministic but there is a reason country X looks like it does and country Z looks the way it does. Most often it is due to the peope inside the country, rarely is it due to people outside the country. (This has been recently shifted as well).
Essentially genes matter, there will be differences, and basically the racial IQ debate is somewhat pointless since it does exist, however what matters is rather now the science of basically populations.