Message from @The Big Oof

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2018-10-11 02:52:39 UTC  

I just think it's interesting that you condescend from an ivory tower while being unaware of what you're doing

2018-10-11 02:52:49 UTC  

I don't keep online shitpost arguments at the forefront of my thoughts

2018-10-11 02:55:49 UTC  

Well, let me put it to you plainly:

If you haven't noticed by now, every time you ask for a source, I always give you one that is more "open" and in agreement with your position, than say, citing Ryan Faulk or some race realism site.
I do this for two reasons
1. Because you'll be more open to it.
2. Because it leaves room for you to defend yourself.

Every time I do this, you look at the article, without allowing room for exchange about what you have just saw, you point out that they have an explanation for the data (which they should), and expect the other person in the debate to accept it unquestioningly without allowing them to challenge it. You take the ground they give you to defend yourself, and then abuse it.

2018-10-11 02:57:20 UTC  

If you are not serious about debating the topic, sure, that's fine, but in that case, if you're in a debate server, you should expect other people to

2018-10-11 02:57:51 UTC  

@The Big Oof stop DESTROYING libtards with FACTS and KNOWLEDGE

2018-10-11 03:06:07 UTC  

well that was interesting

2018-10-11 03:06:48 UTC  

tbh

2018-10-11 03:06:50 UTC  

Just saying

2018-10-11 03:06:57 UTC  

you still haven't addressed what I've been saying

2018-10-11 03:09:50 UTC  

You last asked me:

"What is Ryan Faulk's position then?" and I never answered it because
1. I don't know
2. His position wasn't being invoked anyways. I was using a hypothetical example, and how you would respond to it if it happened

2018-10-11 03:10:08 UTC  

versus how I you would respond to it if I sent you a source that was on your side

2018-10-11 03:10:51 UTC  

okay...?

2018-10-11 03:11:06 UTC  

This has to do with the topic at hand because...?

2018-10-11 03:11:58 UTC  

It's not directly related, but it's indirectly related because it is addressing your method of argument

2018-10-11 03:12:25 UTC  

okay?

2018-10-11 03:12:30 UTC  

So it's not related to the topic at all

2018-10-11 03:12:46 UTC  

Isn't this an ad hom?

2018-10-11 03:12:48 UTC  

kinda

2018-10-11 03:12:52 UTC  

In a sense

2018-10-11 03:13:13 UTC  

"You're being dishonest here and not arguing in good faith"

2018-10-11 03:13:15 UTC  

you're attacking my supposed, hypothetical inconsistency, rather than my actual points

2018-10-11 03:13:17 UTC  

not really an ad hom

2018-10-11 03:13:23 UTC  

he's not attacking you, he's attacking the method by which you stated your case

2018-10-11 03:13:24 UTC  

I mean

2018-10-11 03:13:28 UTC  

okay?

2018-10-11 03:13:29 UTC  

@katie yes

2018-10-11 03:13:36 UTC  

So what's the error in how I set it up now?

2018-10-11 03:13:52 UTC  

I offered a myriad of source-independent points regardless...

2018-10-11 03:14:18 UTC  

The error is not your position, it's how you expect it to be debated and your disingenuous standard

2018-10-11 03:14:43 UTC  

I don't really see how the standard is disingenuous

2018-10-11 03:14:52 UTC  

I'd accept any counterpoint really

2018-10-11 03:15:52 UTC  

I'm just using the source out of convenience

2018-10-11 03:16:03 UTC  

you could argue the source contains some illegitimate points

2018-10-11 03:16:09 UTC  

I could argue said points are legitimate

2018-10-11 03:19:30 UTC  

Of course you can argue that it has a legitimate position, but you don't allow the opposition the opportunity to argue against it

2018-10-11 03:20:53 UTC  

my general pattern of typing involves short fragments, which when combined make a full sentence

2018-10-11 03:20:54 UTC  

or point

2018-10-11 03:20:57 UTC  

or something to that effect

2018-10-11 03:21:03 UTC  

If that's what you're complaining about...?

2018-10-11 03:21:11 UTC  

If I take issue to something, I'll try to refute it point by point